A new AR from an old company...

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http://fieldandstream.blogs.com/gunnut/2007/10/meet-the-r-15.html

The Remington R-15. Supposedly it has some parts that are proprietary, but it will accept all the standard AR goodies. I just hope the supplied 5 round magazine is a quality 5 round magazine and is not one of the proprietary parts mentioned.

I think a lot of us saw this coming when Cerberus bought Remington, Bushmaster, and Cobb.


Here is one of the comments:
Now I know why Remington was so quick to crap out Jim Zumbo!
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Just what the world needs,another AR clone.Hey,if you can produce them,it's money in the bank. I'm all for it.

Is this a Bushmaster with a camo paint job and a Remington stamp,or is it all Remington? Any stats on where the receiver,barrel,etc actually come from?
 
Any stats on where the receiver,barrel,etc actually come from?
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The link says it is being made in Ilion, NY....which has the Remington factory. I don't know where Bushmaster is located, but I doubt it is the same city as Remington.
 
Quote" I know these guns are popular but I wish they wouldn't allow them @ the range I'm a member of. I've seen guys with 30 round clips just blast away @ anything just to empty a clip. They think it's funny and don't give a crap about the image it portrays or the damage it does.

To me, these guns illustrate the excess and selfishness that permeates today's society."


Don't worry no other zumbo joined in after the dose of reality he received.
 
I thought the blogger who wrote this was on Zumbo's side a while back, but here is another blog, I guess as a response (?) to the obvious mix feelings some gun owners might have about Remington making AR style rifles.

October 19, 2007
A Further Thought On The Black Rifle

At the recent Remington Seminar where they introduced the R-15 black rifle (that is really a camo rifle), a number of the older gun editors were seen to mutter in their false teeth about the radical turn that an old, traditional company like Remington was taking, and how they disapproved.

At length, one of the attendees spake unto them, saying:

"Look, you've got thousands and thousands of young guys out there who love these things, and if it keeps them shooting, I'm all for it. A lot of them learned to shoot from a drill sergeant; their fathers didn't teach them. They were busy playing golf or jogging. This is what they know and what they like."

I don't remember who said it, but give the man a medal. We've been Bolt-Action Nation for so long that we forget we were once Lever-Action Nation, and that what converted us was millions of young men being introduced to the 1903 Springfield, courtesy of the U.S. Army and the United States Marines.

As long as it goes bang, let us think kind thoughts about it.
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Not bad IMO.
 
Ah hah! As I said in a couple other threads... the AR-15 will be the new bubba gun. And what have we here? ARs in Mossy-Oak only! Bubba guns.
 
Given the barrels offered, these look like varmint rigs.

If they want to alter the status quo, put a lighter barrel on and offer it in 6.8 Remington SPC. It's not a revolution until you can shoot deer with it.
 
If they want to alter the status quo, put a lighter barrel on and offer it in 6.8 Remington SPC. It's not a revolution until you can shoot deer with it.
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The article mentions the possible addition of 6.8 later on down the road... You'd think it would already be in the works... considering that the 6.8 is their cartridge... :confused:
 
Living where I do, I like the Max-1 camo.

Other than the camo job, though, I'm not sure why I'd buy a proprietary gun that's almost like an AR, even if it's excellent. Cavalry Arms' light one-piece receivers are a neat variation that I like, but the R-15 looks like it's standard AR fare.

At least in my view, half the attraction of the platform is that it is standards-based.

Or are they just saying they have some upgraded internals that fit in the standard holes? That would be a good thing. Looking at the pictures, these guns don't SEEM like they're non-standard...
 
All the articles I've read state that they have proprietary parts but that standard parts will fit.
 
i think they are a little late in the race, but it can only mean good things for the customer, more options there fore more choices out on the market.
 
Remington and Bushmaster are now like Lincoln and Mercury ... both owned by the same company and making some of the same stuff with different labels.

Looks like Remmy is going to do a nice job repackaging Bushmasters to get part of the Fudd market that learned their lessons from the Zumbo incident.

Sounds like a sane marketing strategy to me ... and the more EBRs in the hands of Americans the better.
 
I don't own an AR right now but if all the critical parts on the R-15 don't interchange with the AR-15 I'm not interested.

I'm only interested in camouflage if it's woodland.

If they build an authentic clone, in black, with a Remington logo on it, I might be interested. If I want "different" it will be VERY different, not just a little different.
 
i was chatting with a guy who worked in private equity about cerberus today. He said that they are strongly interested in operating improvement... that means expansion of revenue and profit. I think the R-15 is just a sign of more good things ot come from Remington.

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If they chamber it in 6.8, .243, or .308 I'd be likely to buy one. I know DMPS and others already make ARs in all these calibers, but I'd buy one of these from Remington for deer season.
 
The article mentions the possible addition of 6.8 later on down the road... You'd think it would already be in the works... considering that the 6.8 is their cartridge...
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.223 REMINGTON is no less "their" cartridge than 6.8 Rem SPC.

i think they are a little late in the race, but it can only mean good things for the customer, more options there fore more choices out on the market.
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S&W was a little late with their M&P-15, but they're selling well... and Remington probably sees this, and wants into the game.

I too see this as a good thing!

Ah hah! As I said in a couple other threads... the AR-15 will be the new bubba gun. And what have we here? ARs in Mossy-Oak only! Bubba guns.
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Kinda arrogant, you think? Some AR enthusiasts actually hunt... not all of us are super cool mall-ninjas.
 
I see this as an enormously good thing.
Remington is a household name amongst hunters.
Packaging an EBR as a hunting rig might make a few more hunters care if now what can be considered a 'hunting' rifle gets banned. Yes, Colt has done it in the past, but nowadays anything that is covered in Mossy Oak camo is considered a hunting item.
Its also about time that a major firearms company has brought a hunting rifle to the 21st century standards- they've already done it with turkey guns and to a lesser degree waterfowl guns, but not with rifles yet.
 
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