A new AR from an old company...

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How about some affordable AR type rifles in hunting calibers? We have enough 223 AR-15 makers. Remington needs to make a 6.8 version, IMO - Or better yet, 243, 260 and 308 at a comparable cost to the AR-15.
 
WOW!

"No honest man needs more than 10rds"

Ruger is feeling it. Evolve, or go extinct is what I say. LOL.


It is hard for these large establishment firearms makers to see change. Suprising. I mean, THR's rifle forum has had at least 1 daily AR-15 thread since 2004. Always someone asking advice on what to buy. Always "I'm looking at getting an AR-15" ...That's just one forum out of dozens, and just a drop in the bucket of the whole firearm world. They might not read forums, but as Ruger CEO's letter to shareholders states, distributor numbers are the language they speak.


This is fantastic. More proliferation, more acceptance. The more people have AR-15's the harder it is for Congress to ban them. More people have something to lose. Won't be like 1994, when the scumbags used "divide and conquer" on us getting a huge segment of the gun world to either agree or look the other way while they persecuted us "extremists" .... Ruger was always hostile to AR/AK's. Thankfully, in capitalism, where God is the almighty dollar, their lousy opinions no longer matter as they'd rather try and cash in and survive by selling AR-15's and striker-fired semi-auto pistols! LOL.


This is in a way, vindication. The "evil" and much hated Glock is now copied by all in some way. The AR-15, the "bullet hose" for criminals is going to be made by sporting companies like Remington and Ruger.


There's a chance, that in my lifetime - I'll be able to see an AR-15 in a Dick's sporting goods store. It can happen, maybe. We have a Dick's in a local shopping mall, and they carry rifles. That's huge, considering malls are ultra PC and have very anti-gun policies.

Nothing would be better than to return to the America of the 1950's where you could by a rifle at Sears and ammo and no one thought anything was wrong with it. I want to see ammo at Home Depot and Lowe's. That's how it used to be, that's how it should be.
 
Nothing would be better than to return to the America of the 1950's where you could by a rifle at Sears and ammo and no one thought anything was wrong with it. I want to see ammo at Home Depot and Lowe's. That's how it used to be, that's how it should be.
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How about a return to the 20s, when you could by a Thompson in a hardware store - without paperwork?
 
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That's even better.


Back when I used to post in the political forum ...I would frequently state that my personal belief is a standard where anyone should be able to walk into a 7/11 at 3am and buy a fully automatic short barrel suppressed MP5, and a box of tungsten core armor piercing 9mm bullets, with no NICS, no forms, no nothing but cash. I'm not joking either.
 
The inter-generational aspect of things is interesting here. Go onto Chuck Hawks' gun page or many "mainstream" hunting publications and there is little mention of AR-style rifles; Hawks even stated that he doesn't understand the current AR/military rifle fad and finds them ugly and useless. However, go to my local public range, which is a couple miles north of a major university, and many of the shooters out there are college-age kids or twenty-somethings. Aside from .22LRs, the AR is probably the most popular firearm up there. The endless amounts of .223 cases covering the ground are evidence of this (I'd also note that the second most-popular cartridge up there seems to be 7.62x39). Many kids view the AR as a fun weapon, and one that they can personalize. The whole "tacticool" element of it certainly plays in IMO, as does the fact that my generation was raised on video-game shooters that mainly use military guns. The fact that college students, who are usually on tight budgets, are willing to shell out $750-1100 for a rifle shows the allure or the AR with my generation.

IMO this is a smart move for Remington. It probably plays well into attracting younger hunters. Hopefully the quality will be up to par and they won't pull a 710 on us. Given that many of the parts will likely be Bushmaster-sourced, I'm betting that it should be a pretty decent piece.
 
And the whole thing about an "honest man" not needing anything more than a 10-round mag is bogus. Legal regulation of consumer choices should not be about "need" (and frankly, in a SHTF situation, I'd rather have 30 rounds ready to go than 10).

Lastly, Remy says that the gun accepts most all AR parts. Does this include 30-round mags?
 
Pretty damn cool though to have a 300 winchester short mag that has a 5 shot clip and can pump them out as fast as I can pull the triger and still outshoot my dads custom bolt from the bench!! I just wish they wern't so damn heavy. Trying to take a 9+ lb gun through a mile long deer drive in the swamps of northern MN doesn't sound that fun though.
 
The fact that college students, who are usually on tight budgets, are willing to shell out $750-1100 for a rifle shows the allure or the AR with my generation.
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Amen to that, my AR is the most expensive gun I own. I've been hurtin for money all semester because I bought it, but I didn't want to wait till I could afford one only to find out they're banned. Now I'm an AR fanatic. I like Remington, but there isn't any Remington firearm that would be on top of my list for any purpose. They just don't appeal to me, I'm not an 870 or 700fanatic and I'd choose many other guns over each. They're the guns of the last generation. My generation prefers Benelli shotguns and ARs. But if Remington will make the R-15 in 6.8, I WILL buy their product.
 
Back when I used to post in the political forum ...I would frequently state that my personal belief is a standard where anyone should be able to walk into a 7/11 at 3am and buy a fully automatic short barrel suppressed MP5, and a box of tungsten core armor piercing 9mm bullets, with no NICS, no forms, no nothing but cash. I'm not joking either.
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Can we make those bullets heroin tipped while we're at it?
 
The fact that college students, who are usually on tight budgets, are willing to shell out $750-1100 for a rifle shows the allure or the AR with my generation.
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Amen to that, my AR is the most expensive gun I own.
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You guys are spot on. I am a college student also, and managed to pinch pennies until I could buy my Bushmaster. There is something about the AR platform that fascinates new shooters and young people, drawing them into shooting sports.
 
Well today my boss told he's gotten word Remington will indeed be selling Bushmaster ARs, or Remington badged Bushmasters, through the Remington LE side of the house. There's talk of moving Bushmaster to Ilion, NY to consolidate their US rifle making operations as well.
 
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Preach it!

The AR-15 is rapidly becoming the next Mauser or 700 action: a platform upon which anything can be built within wildly divergent extremes.

No, forget that, it already has.

Oddly enough, the AK platform beat the AR into shotgun chamberings, at least in the US. I understand that there are AR-based shotguns sold in Turkey.
 
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