A new revolver maker enters... Henry

2zulu1 said:
Not as much smashing as one might think, an accidental drop/bump can bend a rod to the point it won't eject spent casings...there's a reason why Colt, Smith & Wesson and Ruger have enclosed ejector rods on their 4" magnums...exposed ejector rods are simply a way of keeping production costs down. :)
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I like the styling of exposed rods. Like Motorcycles with exposed motors
 
Pat Riot said:
This is from the Henry website:
Borrowing design cues from its long gun brethren, the Big Boy Revolver touts highly polished blued steel throughout the medium-sized frame, quick-release cylinder, and 4” barrel. In addition, genuine American walnut grip panels are affixed to both sides of a mirror-like brass trigger guard that’s visible around the grip to the top of the backstrap.

https://www.henryusa.com/handguns/big-boy-revolver/
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Did Henry say their .22 rifle, the zamac one with removable brass plated side-plates, was “brass”?
 
Speedo66 said:
Did Henry say their .22 rifle, the zamac one with removable brass plated side-plates, was “brass”?
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IIRC, their .22s used a brasslite receiver, mix of brass and another metal.

Edit- seeing it's plated aluminum?
 
Oninotaki said:
Mine in .22 mag is more accurate than the S333 but not by much. The DA trigger is heavy as hell though.

I like 3 things about it.

1st no external moving parts to operate the gun aside from pulling the trigger. No slide has to move, cylinder rotate, or external hammer movements. Nor does it have a safety, it's insanely heavy trigger pull does all the work.

2nd it fits in a wallet holster that I can shoot it from without having to take it out of the holster. This means it sits in my back pocket most of the time since I don't actually carry a wallet any more, but just looks like I have one on me. Essentially it is like being able to defend yourself with your wallet.

3rd It is incredibly reliable. It cannot jam, fail to cycle or cylinder lock, the hammer strikes the rims of the .22 mag with authority and I have never had a lightstrike missfire from it.
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What could go wrong? Half of Washington D.C. Defends itself with our wallet.
 
Well, in my opinion......it looks as nice as any Henry I've ever seen..... Take that as you will

I hope they do well with it, but I won't be buying one.
 
CraigC said:
...The birdshead is interesting and I do like the unshrouded ejector. Make it a .44 or .45 with some pre-war flair and it'll pique my interest...
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Talking about birdhead grip:

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If the use Webley WG outline, and made it swingout cylinder, IMO they will have a winner.
 
Onty said:
Talking about birdhead grip:

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If the use Webley WG outline, and made it swingout cylinder, IMO they will have a winner.
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Using a Webley WG outline and not making it a top break is sacrilege of the highest order and the quickest way to get me not to buy it. If you're going to make it look like a top break it better be a top break.
 
The problem there is that they are now locked into that frame size.
They will have to sell a lot of 38s to show acceptance before they move up.
Maybe it would hold five .45s; I always kind of liked the Taurus Stellar Tracker.
 
mcb said:
Using a Webley WG outline and not making it a top break is sacrilege of the highest order and the quickest way to get me not to buy it. If you're going to make it look like a top break it better be a top break.
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As a hard core Webley WG fan, I have to applaud to your statement.

As you and others could guess, of course, I am not talking about copying every detail. When talking about ergonomics (grip, hammer, trigger), Webley WG with birdhead grip is IMHO the best, nothing comes close to it. If you ever have a chance to take it in your hand, don't miss opportunity.

Regarding barrel and release mechanism, of course, they have to be designed to suit swing out cylinder system. I would say, Ruger RH, SRH and GP100 are on the top. However, those mechanism are not simple. Second best is Dan Wesson system; simple, rugged, reliable and proven, making DW revolvers so accurate.

Also, S&W Triple lock is another beautiful design. However, it's complex and requires a lot of hand fitting, so no wander last one was made more than hundred years ago. If I am not mistaken, somebody (Numrich!?) was selling triple lock crane about 40 years ago. At least, I had seen add for it. If I am in S&W top management, I would seriously consider making triple lock again. With todays' CNC machines, manufacturing cost should be reasonable. Of course MRSP will go up 25-30%, but I bet those revolver will go like hot cakes! Just no MIM parts in mechanism.
 
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Onty said:
As a hard core Webley WG fan, I have to applaud to your statement.

As you and others could guess, of course, I am not talking about copying every detail. When talking about ergonomics (grip, hammer, trigger), Webley WG with birdhead grip is IMHO the best, nothing comes close to it. If you ever have a chance to take it in your hand, don't miss opportunity.

Regarding barrel and release mechanism, of course, they have to be designed to suit swing out cylinder system. I would say, Ruger RH, SRH and GP100 are on the top. However, those mechanism are not simple. Second best is Dan Wesson system; simple, rugged, reliable and proven, making DW revolvers so accurate.

Also, S&W Triple lock is another beautiful design. However, it's complex and requires a lot of hand fitting, so no wander last one was made more than hundred years ago. If I am not mistaken, somebody (Numrich!?) was selling triple lock crane about 40 years ago. At least, I had seen add for it. If I am in S&W top management, I would seriously consider making triple lock again. With todays' CNC machines, manufacturing cost should be reasonable. Of course MRSP will go up 25-30%, but I bet those revolver will go like hot cakes! Just no MIM parts in mechanism.
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I was with you until the last statement on MIM parts. Modern MIM parts are in general pretty good. The firearm industry adopted and even help develop MIM when it was a new technology and those early fledgling entries into the technology and its use on firearms hurt its reputation within the firearms industry. In the early years MIM parts were not as strong and that generation of engineer did not know how to use the new technology. The technology is now a fairly mature technology and the current generation of engineers understand its strength and weakness. And those weakness are slowing going ways For example if the MIM has been HIP'ed (Hot Isostatic Pressing) the resulting part is indistinguishable from a forge part made from the same alloy. Glock, XD, S&W all use MIM parts through out most of their designs. S&W have even made M&P 380 Bodyguards' barrel using MIM process. MIM is simple a better version of investment casting. A cheap way to get net shape reducing and sometime eliminating final machining. MIM can do nearly anything you would normally do with investment casting but can do with with greater dimensional stability and the ability to capture finer features. Having owned and worked on a fair number of S&W revolvers I would much rather deal with MIM fire control parts than the old forged parts.
 
Henry will be making this in rimfire within a few months. I'm happy to see another American manufacturer making wheel guns, and I'm always in favor of blued steel and walnut. Anxious to see the first reviews and tests.
 
Onty said:
As a hard core Webley WG fan, I have to applaud to your statement.

As you and others could guess, of course, I am not talking about copying every detail. When talking about ergonomics (grip, hammer, trigger), Webley WG with birdhead grip is IMHO the best, nothing comes close to it. If you ever have a chance to take it in your hand, don't miss opportunity.

Regarding barrel and release mechanism, of course, they have to be designed to suit swing out cylinder system. I would say, Ruger RH, SRH and GP100 are on the top. However, those mechanism are not simple. Second best is Dan Wesson system; simple, rugged, reliable and proven, making DW revolvers so accurate.

Also, S&W Triple lock is another beautiful design. However, it's complex and requires a lot of hand fitting, so no wander last one was made more than hundred years ago. If I am not mistaken, somebody (Numrich!?) was selling triple lock crane about 40 years ago. At least, I had seen add for it. If I am in S&W top management, I would seriously consider making triple lock again. With todays' CNC machines, manufacturing cost should be reasonable. Of course MRSP will go up 25-30%, but I bet those revolver will go like hot cakes! Just no MIM parts in mechanism.
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It would have an internal lock.
 
Looking at pics, this .357 looks large enough to be a .45 Colt, so I do expect a .45 version in the future with a 9mm and .45 ACP spare cylinder at some point too, like the Ruger Blackhawk.

In fact, I get the sense that is what Henry is trying for here in doing to the double action revolver what Ruger did with the single action when they first made the Blackhawk, but instead of modern features Henry is using antiquated ones like the gutter rear sight and skinny blade front.

I would have been more interested in a top break, those were very popular in the late 19th Century thru to the 1930s.
 
JCooperfan1911 said:
Can’t heard how many a time I’ve guys have wanted to a new break top revolver.

Would sell.
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I am a fan myself after picking up a H&R Sportsmen Model 999 in .22LR. Top breaks in 45 ACP/45 Colt, and the .32 family would be day 1 purchases for me. I cant even imagine how well modern top breaks in .38 Special, .380 auto, or 44 special would sell. Could they do top breaks in the higher pressure calibers safely now?
 
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