winwun
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Protect And Serve ? ? How about, Harass, Intimidate and Put In Harm's Way ? ?
Actual ND caught on tape
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SaxonPig - The gun was NOT cocked. She pulled it off in DA. Also, the alleged perp grabs the right side of his face after the officer fires off the round. I think both he and the cuffing officer both got a little lead splatter from the incident.
Mike Irwin
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"How did that girl get out of the academy..."
The same way every BOY who has ever had a negligent discharge got out of the academy.
The same way every BOY who has ever had a negligent discharge got out of the academy.
Mizzoutiger
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KM- Are you sure it wasn't cocked? I can't really tell, the video's not close enough. It would be ridiculous either way. If it were cocked... how did it get that way? Is it SOP to cock the hammer back when you doing a felony cuffing like that? If it weren't cocked... how in the world did she accidently pull the trigger all the way back?? OMG this video makes me wanna wretch.
Sportcat
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Sunray wrote...
I don't believe we need this attitude on this board. I, in no way, believe "cops are the most incompetent users of firearms." Do you have any proof to back this outrageous statement?
If you are to take the high road, please don't make these ignorant, generalizing statements.
Thank you
I don't believe we need this attitude on this board. I, in no way, believe "cops are the most incompetent users of firearms." Do you have any proof to back this outrageous statement?
If you are to take the high road, please don't make these ignorant, generalizing statements.
Thank you
Missouri Mule
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Can you say future..."Meter Maid".
Holy crap that is scary!!!!!
Holy crap that is scary!!!!!
Powderman
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Oh, for heaven's sakes, folks!!
Do we really, truly HAVE to proceed directly to cop bashing every time something like this comes up?
If you are of the standpoint that cops are the most incompetent users of firearms, then that's you're opinion. Why don't you go tell it to folks like Mike Price, Doug Koenig, Mickey Dalton, Clint Smith, Massad Ayoob and others like them? All are either current or former cops.
As a matter of fact, I extend a cordial invitation to you, my friends. Come up to Washington State, and let's go to the range. We'll have a friendly competition.
I'll set up a standard bullseye target at 50 yards. Yes, I said yards.
Then, we'll have a set of friendly wagers.
I will fire 90 rounds at that target.
You will pay me $10.00 for every round I land in the 10 ring or better.
You will pay me $5.00 for every round I land in the 8 ring or 9 ring
(total aiming area at 50 yards is about 5 inches)
I will pay you $25.00 for every round I land outside of the 8 ring, and for every one I put off the target.
Oh, by the way, I'll even shoot from the "duel" position--ONE HANDED.
I should warn you that I have plans for the money I will win from you. A new .45 comes to mind.
I need a new wad gun anyway, after all, I just shoot about 300 rounds in practice and competition each week for NRA Conventional Pistol--OOPS! I wasn't supposed to let that slip!
Well, I might as well buy a new Glock with it, because I'm about to wear the barrel out of mine sooner or later. Plus the finish is getting worn from the holster presentations every week, and the 2 to 300 rounds I put through it every other week---Oh, horse poop! I let that one slip, too!
I'm not supposed to do any of that kind of stuff--or the AR 15 practice--all positions--or the M1A practice--all positions--or the shotgun firing that I do for practice.
Everyone just KNOWS that cops are the most incompetent people with firearms on the planet!
Come on, folks! Do you HAVE to do this, or what?
They should have taken the gun from her right then and let the perp up and told him that if he could beat her in a fist fight, he could go free. I bet there would be a lot of cops standing by as the prep stomped a mud puddle in her A$$!
There is nothing I can say that hasn't been said before but man-o-live! In DA no less! I have a Beretta so I know how long the DA trigger is. She must have been VERY tense or something.
I have nothing against women being cops, I think I would prefer an all female police force, it might take some of the thugs out of uniform. I am not even unhappy that they aren't trained very well, I don't expect them to protect me. All I ask is, don't shoot me in the head for a traffic violation.
There is nothing I can say that hasn't been said before but man-o-live! In DA no less! I have a Beretta so I know how long the DA trigger is. She must have been VERY tense or something.
I have nothing against women being cops, I think I would prefer an all female police force, it might take some of the thugs out of uniform. I am not even unhappy that they aren't trained very well, I don't expect them to protect me. All I ask is, don't shoot me in the head for a traffic violation.
Yes, that shooting incident is not of recent vintage. And, IIRC both the cuffing officer and the arrestee were both injured, but not seriously.
I would not be surprised that both the cuffing officer and the arrestee might have both wanted to kick her fanny.
I would not be surprised that both the cuffing officer and the arrestee might have both wanted to kick her fanny.
George Hill
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Sportcat - everyone is entitled to personal opinion.
Cops seem to be more dangerous to some people when it comes to guns... because cops are always using guns.
The same thing can be said about cops driving cars... because most cops spend most of the shift in the car, and on the road.
This is called "spin".
Democrats are masters of this.
Cops seem to be more dangerous to some people when it comes to guns... because cops are always using guns.
The same thing can be said about cops driving cars... because most cops spend most of the shift in the car, and on the road.
This is called "spin".
Democrats are masters of this.
coop57
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I saw a female LEO at our local indoor range injury her self with the staple gun while trying to mount a paper target. Only a small percentage of LEOs are competent with handguns. Most shoot very little.
Mike Irwin
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"I saw a female LEO at our local indoor range injury her self with the staple gun while trying to mount a paper target."
I once saw a cop smash his thumb with a hammer while I was helping him rebuild his kitchen floor.
How is either situation applicable to a negligent discharge with a firearm?
Unless officers are now being armed with Arrow Staplemaster 92s or California Framer 38s...
I once saw a cop smash his thumb with a hammer while I was helping him rebuild his kitchen floor.
How is either situation applicable to a negligent discharge with a firearm?
Unless officers are now being armed with Arrow Staplemaster 92s or California Framer 38s...
Carlos Cabeza
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It happens to the best of us, just not in a critical "police moment" Cut her some slack.
12-34hom
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Cop bashing at THR?
When there's blood in the water...
12-34hom.
When there's blood in the water...
12-34hom.
Mike Irwin
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"When there's blood in the water..."
No...
I really think in this case it's more "when there's a female who happens to be a cop in the water..."
No...
I really think in this case it's more "when there's a female who happens to be a cop in the water..."
winstonsmith
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Cops are great. I've talked to many, many cops, who were intrigued to find a friendly and respectful teenager. I've come out of the those conversations with one impression.
The cops I talked to are competent, cool headed, intelligent, and even amiable fellows. Both men and women. I feel safe with them protecting me.
With that said, cops are taken from general population. There are incompetent buffoons in the general population, thus there are incompetent buffoons in the police force. Albeit at a smaller (at least out here) rate.
Anyone who thinks that LEOs are incompetent and badmouth them are forgetting that they are the duct tape that is holding our society together.
The cops I talked to are competent, cool headed, intelligent, and even amiable fellows. Both men and women. I feel safe with them protecting me.
With that said, cops are taken from general population. There are incompetent buffoons in the general population, thus there are incompetent buffoons in the police force. Albeit at a smaller (at least out here) rate.
Anyone who thinks that LEOs are incompetent and badmouth them are forgetting that they are the duct tape that is holding our society together.
jmbg29
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winston,
I have got to say that I too am impressed. You are a very thoughtful and well spoken kid. That is a fairly rare thing.
winstonsmith
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Thanks jmbg29. I appreciate it. I'm not that pompous all the time. When I'm with my friends I speak in californianese. you know, hella, like, and all that.
You dont feel comfortable joining an RKBA message board at 14 without having a command over the english language.
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out of my cold dead hands...
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You dont feel comfortable joining an RKBA message board at 14 without having a command over the english language.
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out of my cold dead hands...
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SquirrelNuts
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I have had the pleasure of talking to winstonsmith...swapping stories, views and concerns over many things...not just firearms. I am very proud to say that this young man is the future of firearms owners.
As far as police go, there are a few bad ones out there, but they are few and far between. Those bad ones do give the good ones a bad image, but this happens in every walk of life. How many times do you hear someone say "I will never go back to XXX store because of that salesperson's poor attitude?" Not every salesperson's attitude is poor at that store (usually) just that one person. Happens all the time folks.
I used to have a poor vision of law enforcement because I ran into several of the poor ones. A friend talked me into doing a ride along with a local police agency to see what cops really do, how they act, and what they really are like. I did this, and it really changed my perception of law enforcement. When this same friend went through the police academy, I was shocked by how much they went through to earn (notice I said earn) their position.
I suggest that everyone do a police ride along, no matter what your perception of police is. Go to your local police station and ask them about a ride along program. Some agencies do not do this, so don't stop looking if the first agency says they do no.
-SquirrelNuts
As far as police go, there are a few bad ones out there, but they are few and far between. Those bad ones do give the good ones a bad image, but this happens in every walk of life. How many times do you hear someone say "I will never go back to XXX store because of that salesperson's poor attitude?" Not every salesperson's attitude is poor at that store (usually) just that one person. Happens all the time folks.
I used to have a poor vision of law enforcement because I ran into several of the poor ones. A friend talked me into doing a ride along with a local police agency to see what cops really do, how they act, and what they really are like. I did this, and it really changed my perception of law enforcement. When this same friend went through the police academy, I was shocked by how much they went through to earn (notice I said earn) their position.
I suggest that everyone do a police ride along, no matter what your perception of police is. Go to your local police station and ask them about a ride along program. Some agencies do not do this, so don't stop looking if the first agency says they do no.
-SquirrelNuts
winstonsmith
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Yeah... people who badmouth cops really make me angry.
I didn't see those people rushing into a burning 100+ story tower to save lives 2 Septembers ago. I didn't see them losing their own.
I don't see them putting their lives on the line, every day, for my basic ability to not get harrassed.
Leave the cops alone. They get enough crap from criminals (not to mention liberals)
Just because a few of them screw up doesn't mean they are as a whole incompetent.
I didn't see those people rushing into a burning 100+ story tower to save lives 2 Septembers ago. I didn't see them losing their own.
I don't see them putting their lives on the line, every day, for my basic ability to not get harrassed.
Leave the cops alone. They get enough crap from criminals (not to mention liberals)
Just because a few of them screw up doesn't mean they are as a whole incompetent.
Feanaro
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I don't bad mouth cops on a general level. But I have met a whole STATION full and various assorted ones. Many of them are nice people. But they are pretty much incompetant with their weapons. I could say they are all horrible because that is my only experiance with them. And that's why many people say that.
I haven't met all the police in the world and until I do my position will remain neutral. But they never seem to make a good impression on me.
I haven't met all the police in the world and until I do my position will remain neutral. But they never seem to make a good impression on me.
The only times I have been harrassed in the past 10 years was by cops! I am not a trouble maker and I don't have a record. I have never had anything more than a speeding ticket but that is because I know how to talk to these jokers. If you pretend to show them respect, they will go away and bother someone else. I can honestly say that I have very little respect for cops. They are not doing their job because they want to protect you or because they have some great love of the law, they want power and the ability to push people around. They also need money just like all of us. It takes a certain type of person to decide they want to be a cop.
Not all of them are like this of course. I am making a point and I am not being compleatly fair. My friend is a cop and I don't really consider him a bully, he does enjoy putting the boot to what he considers the "bad guys" but he is pretty fair with them also. I think there are two kinds of people that become cops, those that want power and want to push people around and a small percentage of people that seem to like order and feel it is important to protect rules and order from what they see as a crazy world. Either way, it takes someone that thinks in black and white, right and wrong to be a cop. You have to believe that there are "good guys" and "bad guys" in this world.
MicroBalrog
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She ACCIDENTALY pulled off an ND with a DA gun?
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