Am I just a "wuss".

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Never heard of them. What brand are they?
My 20 is an 870 Express. I love it, except for the fact that it is a 3" mag gun (barrel and receiver) yet it won't cycle 3" shells.
Thought about sending it to Remington for repairs, but I'm afraid it would come back more screwed up than the R51 or a Remlin.
 
They are made by B&P and they have what they call the Gordon System they have a strange wad and the back of the shell around the primer is a ring of plastic instead of being all brass like american shells. They are reloadable and they do hold tight patterns its just nobody has any idea what im talking about. I took one apart to see how it works and its really pretty simple. The idea of it is to keep your shot in its wad for further distances giving tighter groups and it does seem to work because I have found my wads stuck in the plyboard at 50yds. The plastic ring around the primer is suppose to cusion the recoil but I don't think it works that well or at least I can't tell any difference but they are loaded heavier too..
 
thirty-ought-six said:
I fired a NEF 20ga with about 6 rounds of Remington Express #6 "power piston".

My arm hurts!

Each time I fired is like someone hitting me full force in the shoulder, I tried to hold the shotgun at different spots on my shoulder, but none was any better.

Do the power piston shells have more powder or something?
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Yes. If your arm hurts, it is because you do not shoulder the shotgun correctly, as explained by someone else in a previous post. It is likely that your shotgun got there after you hurt your shoulder. When it hurts, you should stop shooting. Next time, you should place it closer to your neck, in the pocket that forms between your clavicle and your arm when you raise your arm, that is the sweet spot. Hold the weapon firmly (yet, you are not pulling an elephant either) in that spot and you can shoot for hours without bruising your shoulder. Hearing protection is a basic requirement. Apart from saving you from deafness, it will also allow you to hold your weapon more steadily because you will not be negatively affected by its loudly unpleasant noise.
 
I had a Remington 870 12ga that I bought before I ever fired one and it was a mistake. OP, you are not alone. Between it hurting my shoulder and being cross-eye dominant, somebody above is telling me I am not supposed to be a shotgun guy.

I have no problems with .30 cal military surplus guns, nor my .308 Tikka. Just some guns, I guess...
 
^ I think newbie's tend to under estimate the recoil of shotguns in general and the 12 gauge in particular. Years ago I read a Gun Digest article on recoil and it had a chart of firearm recoil ratings, 12 gauge 1-1/4 oz was rated higher than the H&H .375 mag.
 
Which is why I reload a 28 gauge load for my 12 and 20 - 3/4 @ 1210 fps - they work my gas guns and are easy enough to shoot several hundred in a day with ZERO pain or fatigue
 
There is a big difference in shooting 300 rounds in a day playing clay games and 3-4 rounds hunting squirrel or rabbit . I have only shot 2 guns ever that have hurt me and yes one was a H&R 12 ga synthetic stock with a 3.5 inch turkey load . I wound not even notice the recoil if I was shooting at a turkey.
I reload most of my 12 ga loads 7/8 oz @ ~1250 fps not because of recoil, but because 7/8th oz is enough to kill most game I hunt and ~1250 fps is about the same speed as most heavy game loads if I need to go up in shot weight.
 
Take the recoil pad off and put a hunk of lead in there, some wood screws to keep it place and your done. I have a 12 gauge that feels just fine even with 3" shells.
 
Crawdad1 said:
Take the recoil pad off and put a hunk of lead in there, some wood screws to keep it place and your done. I have a 12 gauge that feels just fine even with 3" shells.
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That's certainly an option. The over-all weight will increase but being so far to the rear it is easily ignored.

The great side benefit to stock weights is that they give the feeling of easier/quicker swinging of the muzzle.

Todd.
 
And that fast moving muzzle can also lead to very fast stops.. :0

Increased weight (mass) of gun plus lightest and slowest payload that will do the job will give you the lowest actual recoil. Perceived recoil, aka kick, is based on the perception of how that recoil feels being transmitted to you. That aspect is strictly about gun fit - not just LOP, but more importantly drop at heel and comb, cast on or off, toe in or out, etc.
 
You have to be in good physical shape to handle a shotgun. If you cannot walk a couple miles at a fast pace you probably are not in good enough shape to handle a shotgun with a full load. It also helps to to have a good fitting shotgun.
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Seriously? I can easily walk my 1.8 mile morning walk in 35 minutes, not a "couple of miles", yet I can handle my shotguns just fine.....:neener:
 
The great side benefit to stock weights is that they give the feeling of easier/quicker swinging of the muzzle.
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After you said that Todd I got it out and swung it and you're right on the money it does have a livelier swing to it.
 
Sounds just like shooting my son's Rossi break action with the 410 barrel. First time I shot it it really whacked me. Glad I didn't have my son shoot it, would have turned him off big time. He's 7 for context, started shooting about at 4 with the 22LR barrel on it.
 
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