What do I know, I have Youth Single Shot in 20 ga.
I did get another elastic shell holder for the butt stock.
The first one held up fine, just it made sense at the time to put dawg treats in it, toss it out, and see how the dawg was going to get them big treats out of the thing , that was a bit tricky for me to get in it.
FWIW, a dawg can remove a treat from one of them things faster than one can stuff it...*grin*
My role is my role.
I started young, did my things, and all along the way did my role.
One has to have a good foundation in anything, before they can build upon it.
I have the right to be wrong, and by the same token, I have the right to be correct.
Correct basic fundamentals, a foundation, is that important to me.
It was how I was raised, mentored, and the way I choose to pass forward.
I still use BB Guns to assist new shooters, Brister sharing that in his work, just had me and mine just a grinning. WE did that w-a-y back when.
I still use a garden hose, to assist new shooters.
I still put a band-aid on the side of a gun , so a new person gets finger off trigger, and instills that Rule of Safety, that person , in short order, will get in the habit of putting a finger straight, when it is not trigger slapping time.
I am going to continue having dummy shells to assist with loading and unloading a shotgun.
I am going to continue having Primer only hulls and using this to add the dimension of noise, with a shotgun going off.
I will continue to trace correct "feets" for foot stance on cardboard, plywood, rubber mats.
Look in Misseldine's work and Grant Isleng has foot position on every station, to assist new shooters.
I am going to continue preferring to use a 28 gauge to introduce and assist new folks.
Dammit I am right on this! 28 gauge is that effective with its short shot string, less felt recoil.
I want folks to bust the smithereens out of stationary clay, a balloon, and moving clay. I want their self esteem so high, I want them to have fun!
Will Fennell and others start folks with 28 gauge too!
Safety is paramount, especially the safety of the student!
My role includes kids, ladies, physically limited and elderly. I chose this role.
Abused kids, ladies be they single, single moms, married,raped, beaten, assaulted and My role was to get them to safety and get them up to speed ASAP with a single shot shotgun, as by golly they and the kids if they had them, were in fear of life.
Don't tell me different, I have been there, done that.
I and mine have put ourselves in harm's way to assist these folks.
Same for Physically Limited and Elderly. Yes I know the .410 is not effective in its pattern.
You break you back, neck, hip, detach a retina, or have Osteo so bad you step out of bed and in doing so - break a foot.
Doctors and Physcial Therapist Orders on what can and cannot be done.
.22 Rifle, I don't give a damn what anyone says, if the person is going to permanently lose a eye, get paralyzed, and other damage, I am NOT going to do shotguns!
That grandparent, that used to shoot clays, and with raising kids, a family and all - has not in years.
Grandkid gets bigger and - by damn, we start with a 28 ga so that grandparent , grandkid, and parents can all shoot shotguns as a family.
Damn! I mean seeing a kid shoot a low 7 and bust it, with grandparent and parents - you cannot put a monetary value on that!
You have a grandparent dying, we all know it, still they do make that dove hunt.
Little Grandkid, not really big enough to shoot a shotgun by themselves, still on dove on the ground, and dying grandparent assists with that shotgun he got that kid.
That moment, that dove going to a taxidermist...Priceless!
My role what I chose to do, I promised me, and my mentors and elders.
Now- you want to learn to shoot Defensive? Fine, go see Awerbuck
You want to shoot Sporting Clays? Go see Will Fennell.
My role is to do my role so when you show up, like the lady I stood outside the curtain when the rape kit was done in the ER, and her son was being sent to OR for a busted leg, when she got better, time passed she got lessons from Missledine.
"What damn fool said gun fit was important and what idiot would shoot a 1300 for duck hunting" - Misseldine.
"Well Steve got me this far, and the gun fit , and some old fart named Fred uses 1300s".
Lady showed up to see a defensive shotgun trainer with a 1100 in 20 ga.
"Steve got me started, I know the 4 rules and this used skeet gun fits, for skeet. I am here to learn, and this is the only gun I have besides a .410 single shot, Steve gave me on a bad, bad night I try to forget.
Trainer did not look down on that used 1100 in 20 ga, with a fixed choked 26" barrel.
He saw grit, honesty, willingness to learn and pen and paper.
She run the gun, she did fine.
Trainer got some other guns, better suited for defensive use, tad shorter LOP, shorter barrel and these two measured, shot, made notes, and she even traced the damn thing to make sure on paper.
I have my convictions, and I have earned them. I have earned the trust of a lady, that really did not think too highly of men,as a man raped/assaulted, knifed, shot... ditto for kids, as a guy hurt them and their momma.
NO. I will not start a new person on a AR Stock for a shotgun, I am not that old, still I am not that young. I started too damn young, and am a product of my raisin', and dammit, a full stock, bone stock shotgun stock, wood, is what I want to start a new shooter out with.
Wood. Less felt recoil being denser, Gun fit can be tweaked, gun fit means that much to me, be it clay or defensive.
Now, once the correct basics are down, take them Wood measurements, and get a synthetic if need.
I am right! My Mentors were right! Some things just "are" and as Rand said
"A is A".
Larry Correia.
Now folks might think Larry and I are total opposites on shotgun thinking, we are not.
Larry learned to shoot and damn well, with a bone stock shotgun.
He chose to compete, and chose later 3 gun.
He added what he needed to shoot that game.
Saiga's come along and he tested and eval-ed them.
Short shotguns, he knows about, his clientle and his business is with some real deal folks that run toward trouble, like SWAT, and those in the Military.
Nothing wrong with these guns, if one can afford them, nothing at all.
Larry is damn good at teaching CCW btw, we agreed to disagree on firearms - we do agree each person is different, and where they live, political flavor, city vs rural and other factors play a role in choices.
First shotgun?
I am going to continue to suggest a bone stock, wood full stock, getting it fitted to shooter and getting the correct basics.
With such a gun, one can shoot clays, hunt, and handle a serious situation.
One can shoot at ranges, that otherwise restrict some configs.
One can show up to shoot quail in Georgia, or doves in TX or South American.
One can assist a daughter in the Girl Scouts, or son in the Boy Scouts...
None of this shooting stuff was ever about me, it was about others.
I have my fun, razz, tease, - deep down there is a damn serious side to me.
Oh some of the stuff I share, is not about shooting, it is about life, and how I was raised in regard to life.
Ruark wrote stories about hunting and fishing too, and he too shared about life and living life, mixed in with his works.
We all can look back, shake our heads and wonder why in the hell did we did , or thought what we did at that time.
Age , disease, injury, and death gets us all.
It ain't no big deal - and I ain't either.
I've stuck a fork in this one, and this one is done for me.