Am I one of the few who puts such a high value on the 7.62x25 round?

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A new Glock type Pistol and a Hi-Point type
carbine in that caliber .... it would be preppers no1 choice
i bet.
 
You must have exceptional eyes to see the Tokarev sights well enough such that '100 yard shots are easy'.
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Ones ability to see and focus on the sights are the same weather the target is at 10 yards or 100.

Overpenetration would be a serious concern for me in any social situation.
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Why? If there's something behind your target that you're worried about hitting with a pass through you shouldn't be shooting anyway because you might miss.
 
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You must have exceptional eyes to see the Tokarev sights well enough such that '100 yard shots are easy'.
Ones ability to see and focus on the sights are the same weather the target is at 10 yards or 100...."

I've owned a lot of classic pistols...compared to a service 1911, Tokarev sights are big and clear. The rear notch is wide enough, and the square profile front sight fits the rear notch with plenty of light on either side.
The sights seem to be adjusted for long range...with a center hold at closer ranges, I hit a few inches high...at 100yds, a center hold equals a hit.
 
Shooting through a car door to stop a carjacking? And digging out a car gun to do so? REALLY??? If I had time to do that, I'd just drive away
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Draw your CCW and shoot? REALLY??
Then why bother carrying a gun if you doubt you could do it.

Your situational awareness skills will save the day or not, carrying a gun only gives you some additional options.
 
Other than being a lower cost ammunition in a cheaper, thinner platform; 7.62x25 is pedestrian compared to a 95gr FMJ @ 2000fps out of a G20 with 6" 9x25 barrel. That being said, I do enjoy shooting 7.62x25 when it is cheap. Best thing about the 7.62x25 is the skinny package that shoots it, the TT-33.
 
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Yes I am a fan of the 7.62x25 round. It has a lot of potential if you’re in to reloading and can find powder. A 90 gr Sierra sports master hp, at 1750 fps has 612 ponds of energy and 832 (joules). That is a devastating round for personal protection and it won’t over penetrate.
 
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wally said:
Draw your CCW and shoot? REALLY??
Then why bother carrying a gun if you doubt you could do it.

Your situational awareness skills will save the day or not, carrying a gun only gives you some additional options.
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I agree on all counts - but the OP was specific in that he would NOT carry this round. He would keep it in his car, which usually requires more than drawing and firing a CCW.
 
mavracer said:
Ones ability to see and focus on the sights are the same weather the target is at 10 yards or 100..
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I will take my Yugo M57 out tomorrow and see if that is right.

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Why? If there's something behind your target that you're worried about hitting with a pass through you shouldn't be shooting anyway because you might miss.
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In a life threatening home defense situation I imagine (never having been in that position) that a miss is very possible. If forced to use a handgun for mortal protection I admit that I would still likely take a shot even though the bullet could travel beyond my outside walls, dangerous as that may be. I would then have to take responsibility for the consequences of my own actions. However, as someone once said: "I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6".
Given that possibility, I AM concerned about the potential overpenetration of the high speed Tokarev bullet and would much prefer to recommend a weapon shooting generally available ammunition in a hollow point self defense round.
 
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It's a fun round to shoot and really cheap as well and I wouldn't use it as a carry gun or home defense gun as I don't shoot mine enough to justify carrying it. I'll stick to my .45 and leave the CZ to night shooting as people love seeing that 3 inch flame come out of the end of it.
 
I think the 7.62x25 would be great in a PDW type firearm. If someone could build a convertible platform that would swap out 7.62x25, 9mm, .45 ACP, and 5.7x28 with just different magazines, barrel, and bolt (where needed), that might be pretty cool.

It'd be even better if we could get the barrel length for NFA firearms reduced to 12" or so, or even eliminated entirely.
 
Jim K said:
The 7.62x25 is a good round. But it is a pistol round, not that much better than 9x19. It won't shoot through mountains, penetrate tanks, slaughter whole armies with a single shot, or create radioactive mushroom clouds when a bullet hits the ground.

Jim
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It won't?? Well then I'm throwing both my CZ and my Tok away and burying all those silly little brown paper ammo packlets along with the three spam cans unopened taking space on my knick-knack shelf.

No mushroom clouds....really?

Durn it, why can't my dreams come true?
 
Given that possibility, I AM concerned about the potential overpenetration of the high speed Tokarev bullet and would much prefer to recommend a weapon shooting generally available ammunition in a hollow point self defense round.
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"Avaliable" is subjective as I have a few boxes of this
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I like mine, an M57 too. It is very accurate at distances as noted already and very reliable and easy to shoot. I bought a bunch of mags for mine, and figured it would make a decent carry option for around the homestead, good for smaller varmints. I know 2 guys that carry the Tokarev round and both like it. One uses a M57 and the other a CZ52. It really penetrates stuff too. We tend to get along well with whatever we have, the main thing is to HAVE a gun when the time comes it is needed.
 
I have a CZ82. GREAT pistol, easy to field strip, polygonal rifling, accurate, concealable (if heavy), well made, relatively inexpensive.

I also have a new production Yugo M57 in 7.62x25. I even ordered Marschall grips for it which REALLY dresses it up. The problem is, I can't get the thing to shoot on the paper unless I hold it about a foot high, even at close distances. I even filed the front sight almost all the way down, STILL not on the paper. I put it back in the safe and will revisit it someday when I have more time. I REALLY wanted to love that gun....it just isn't cooperating. I'm with you though...the 7.62x25 cartridge is very interesting.


Warner
 
Personally, I don't see any real NEED for a 7.62x25 either, but since when did you guys start arguing like a bunch of gun grabbers by trying to argue NEED? Its a great little cartridge that comes in neat little weapons. Personally, I would love to see a modern platform to shoot the round out of. I'd love a pistol that carried 9-10 rounds in a slingle stack mag.
 
Warner Quote; I also have a new production Yugo M57 in 7.62x25. I even ordered Marschall grips for it which REALLY dresses it up. The problem is, I can't get the thing to shoot on the paper unless I hold it about a foot high, even at close distances. I even filed the front sight almost all the way down, STILL not on the paper. I put it back in the safe and will revisit it someday when I have more time. I REALLY wanted to love that gun....it just isn't cooperating. I'm with you though...the 7.62x25 cartridge is very interesting.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought if you file down a front sight, you bring the point of impact up. I have had several single action revolvers with fixed sights, and most always shot low at the distances I shot for Cowboy Action, so I had to file the front sight down. It just sounds to me that you shouldn't have filed your front sight but lowered your rear sight, or a taller front sight might have been needed. Again maybe I confused as it has been a while sence I've had to file a sight on a revlover as I haven't bought one in several years. Again, way I'm thinking about this is if you hold two fingers of one hand in a V simulating your rear sight, then hold one finger of your other hand up in front, simulating your front sight. Then if you bend your front sight/finger at the first joint simulating your filing of your front sight, you will have to raise your front hand/sight finger which is also the front of the barrel to bring the sights/fingers back in line. LM
 
Warners said:
I have ... a new production Yugo M57 in 7.62x25. ... I can't get the thing to shoot on the paper unless I hold it about a foot high, even at close distances. I even filed the front sight almost all the way down, STILL not on the paper. ...
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As LightningMan said, you raised the point of impact even more by making the front sight shorter. You would need a taller front sight or a shorter rear one to bring the POI down.
 
There are two American equivalents to the 7.62x25mm -- a hot loaded .32-20 (Hodgdon lists revolver loads driving a 110 grain bullet at 1475 fps) is one and t he .327 Magnum is another. Both are cheaper than 7.62x25mm, easy to handload, and with a wide variety of bullets available.
 
I think another option is if you want fast lightweight bullets, get a Sig .357 and use 90gr bullets the kind you would use for 9mm or .380. The Hornady manual shows 1616 fps using a 88gr. jacketed bullet. With a max charge of 11.1grs of AA#5. LM.
 
Vern Humphrey said:
There are two American equivalents to the 7.62x25mm -- a hot loaded .32-20 (Hodgdon lists revolver loads driving a 110 grain bullet at 1475 fps) is one and t he .327 Magnum is another. Both are cheaper than 7.62x25mm, easy to handload, and with a wide variety of bullets available.
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Both of which are revolver cartridges.
 
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