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62nd case in the decapper using Hornady One Shot.

I got it out after watching a youtube video.

Drilled and tapped the butt end of the case that was stuck in the die.

7/32" drill bit 1/4-20 thread tap 1/4-20 bolt

The guy in the video cut a piece of 3/4 copper water pipe to be the stand off for the bolt going in to the case. I just used a random 3/8 deep socket from the tool box.

It works. Didn't know everyone hated Hornady One Shot until I started searching for how to get it out. :fire:
 
Yes. Been there. I use Dillon lube for normal resizing. Anything heavy duty, the lube pad comes out or Imperial.
 
It's great when used with carbide dies, but lacks the film strength of other more robust lubes. It's all I use for volume reloading on progressives, but I use a thicker lube with much higher film strength for large cases and conventional dies.
 
I was spraying a few shots in a baggie, shaking it about so they got coated. Using Hornady Carbide dies.

Most of my brass is from ZQ1 or Federal but a few before the one that got stuck said Perfecta. It felt tight but it went. The one that got stuck was another Perfecta.
 
Never tried it but Hornady One Shot just seems to get a lot of bad rap. Stuck case after stuck case. I am still using some no longer made RCBS spray lube in small aerosol cans. One can last a long time and I had a pile of them left over from my gun shop. This stuff is 20 years old and the cans still work great. The small plastic RCBS pump bottles dried up. :) No way will I be trying the Hornady One Shot when I finally need lube.

Ron
 
I just sized about 70 cases in .308 using One Shot and I would hesitate to use it again. It is marginal on a case with a nice big rim to grab and pull out with the press but it is fatal on weak rims like .223. I've had a couple of stuck .223 cases with One Shot and none with the Dillon clone, Vaseline, STP, Bag Balm or just plain fresh motor oil leftovers from changing the oil in my car.
 
I was trying to keep it simple and spraying in the baggie seemed like the ticket. Also, the One Shot said on the can it won't contaminate powder or primers.

Now I'm looking for lanolin and this seems like it will add another step to the process. Won't I have to tumble the brass again to get lube off now?
 
I was trying to keep it simple and spraying in the baggie seemed like the ticket. Also, the One Shot said on the can it won't contaminate powder or primers.

Now I'm looking for lanolin and this seems like it will add another step to the process. Won't I have to tumble the brass again to get lube off now?

I can't see your brass so I have no clue how sticky or coated with one shot it is. That said I would be cleaning the brass again. As to case lube? You can buy or roll your own. There is likely dozens of recipes here in the forums as the subject is pretty frequent. Anyway, if it were me? I would clean the brass again. That or wash it down with isopropanol alcohol to cut the existing lube coating off.

Just My Take....
Ron
 
I'll try to say it better :) And yes it's 5.56 brass.

At least with the One Shot the brass seemed ok and didn't need another tumble. They weren't all gooked up. The can says it won't harm powder or primers so I was under the impression these were ready to move on to trimming.

But if I use say the lanolin alcohol mix, or even motor oil, I'll have to tumble them clean won't I?

For the most part it's my own range pickups so it's not real nasty brass but I was giving them a tumble before I put them in my shiny new die set. Just trying to keep a new die set in as good a shape as possible.
 
But if I use say the lanolin alcohol mix, or even motor oil, I'll have to tumble them clean won't I?

Yes, I would and suggest you do the same. Cleaning them up is the best way to go, won't take long and puts all of this behind you.

Ron
 
That's what I will do then. I mostly just set up a load in the tumbler and go off and do other stuff for awhile so I'll just work in another tumble to the process.
 
The only times I stuck a case in a die in 17 years of reloading rifle rounds was when I tried Hornady One Shot. I stuck two .223 cases and one 30.06. I threw my can of one schit in the garbage. If you search stuck case here on THR you will find Hornady one shot mentioned many times, more than any other lube by far. The one shot fans will be along shortly to tell you you must have used it wrong. Offer to send them your can for $4 plus shipping. Then get some imperial sizing wax, or some Dillon lube, or some Lee or RCBS lube and you will never ever stick another case.
 
Using Hornady Carbide dies...
...And yes it's 5.56 brass...
The only carbide .223 dies I'm aware of are Dillon's.
Does Hornady make carbide dies? I thought their low friction dies were all titanium nitride?

In any event, from what I've read, even the Dillon carbide dies require lubed cases, so I don't see much point unless you're loading enough to wear out steel dies in a year or two.

I don't recall you saying what kind of media you use.
I generally like fine walnut hulls for cleaning up range brass, but it doesn't work particularly well for lube removal.

Corn cob seems to remove lube faster and doesn't get gunked up as fast as the walnut does.

You can use Imperial sizing wax pretty much like you were using the Hornady One Sh-t, just with a lot less cussing, high blood pressure and murderous impulses.

Smear some Imperial on the inside of a Ziploc bag with your fingers, add cases, then shake and roll 'em around for a few seconds. If you're using a steel expander you'll need to scrape some of the excess lube on your fingers into every 3rd or 4th case mouth.

It doesn't take much lube using this method, but I suggest you go a little heavy when starting out.

You already know why.:banghead:
 
When I'm sizing my 30-06 with One Shot, I literally hose them down. I tumble them again when I'm done resizing them to get the stuff off.

I never been able to get the misting thing Hornady describes to work. I let them set for a good 15 minutes before even thinking about resizing one.

With hosing them down I still don't seem to get shoulder dents from all the extra lube. That's the only reason I use it.

When I run out I may try Dillon's spray lube.

My process may not be efficient but it works.
 
I only load handgun cartridges so far, but I was expecting to see mention of reducing galling by washing brass in Armor All Wash-n-Wax. I do that with new brass and then put it in a dehydrator for a couple hours. I would expect to use a more rigorous drying process for necked cases.

In terms of One Shot it can be used on the die as well as the case.
 
I ran a few hundred more last night hosing them down with One Shot in an MTM tray and then letting them dry. And I have shot some squirts up into the die too.

Guess what? I had to drill another. What I've learned is I have two headstamps that are the problem. The first that caused all this was Perfecta, the second was PPU. I was tossing the Perfecta as I was going along and then got a PPU stuck. I can tell when it's about to happen now and sure enough it's the Perfecta and the PPU. So I just toss them in the junk pile. Maybe I'll go back and try them when I can get my hands on another type of lube. Dillons spray lube maybe or the Imperial wax.

My Impression was that my dies were carbide? That was the reference used when I asked at Cabelas. They are Hornady "New Dimension Custom Grade".

Oh, I know about corn cob. :cuss: I spent hours getting that stuff out of the first cases I tumbled. Works fine for 9mm but once a bigger kernel got down the neck of a .223 they filled up and stayed full. I went right out and got walnut which is finer and it pours out of the shells now.
 
I have a stuck case remover from RCBS that I bough years before the internet. I was not smart enough to figger out the method until I saw the set. After seeing what RCBS provided I had everything that I needed in the shop. But, it did come in a storage box that makes it easy to keep up with all of the parts.

As far as Hornady One Shot goes, people either love it or hate it. I've used it in the past, with no problems but I shook it really good and let it dry on the case before sizing. I use Dillon spray or Imperial now, depending on what I'm sizing.
 
I have an awful time with ppu brass even in .357 mag. (straight cases) When I'm resizing them I can pick them out without even looking. The brass is so hard it's a no brainer when I find one.

Someone gave them to me and I just dump them into my good Winchester brass. I have them all picked out now.

When I find one now they go in my recycling bucket.

I can't imagine trying to resize a bottle neck ppu case. If they are made out of the same brass as my .357mags I wouldn't even try.

Good luck
 
when I first started reloading (20 years) I tried one shot. Stuck cases and went to dillons case lube. Now I make my own using a product called liquid film and alcohol solvent. Just like dillons I think but cheaper and works great.
 
I'll try to say it better :) And yes it's 5.56 brass.

At least with the One Shot the brass seemed ok and didn't need another tumble. They weren't all gooked up. The can says it won't harm powder or primers so I was under the impression these were ready to move on to trimming.

But if I use say the lanolin alcohol mix, or even motor oil, I'll have to tumble them clean won't I?

For the most part it's my own range pickups so it's not real nasty brass but I was giving them a tumble before I put them in my shiny new die set. Just trying to keep a new die set in as good a shape as possible.
I use the Lanolin/Alcohol mix for case lube. It's cheap, you don't have to pay shipping and it works. All I do is wipe them off with a dry towel, I've never seen a need to re-tumble them.

I got the lanolin from Amazon, I got the alcohol (Heet) from Walmart. FYI If you buy Heet, be sure to buy the red bottle, the yellow bottle will not work.
 
I haven't reloaded much rifle ammunition in a long time, preferring instead to use the milsurp ammo that I stockpiled during, primarily, the first decade of the new century. I gave up hunting many years ago.

I have always used RCBS Lube on a stamp pad.

After getting my LCT & FART a year ago I decided to process a small pile of 5.56 rifle brass (~2000) that I have had sitting unused in a box for several decades.

I decided to give One Shot a try and used it to resize 500 of those cases with no issues.

I plan on using up my remaining stock of One Shot prior to deciding whether or not to buy more.

A few months later, after being bitten by the .32-20 bug, however, I to give Hornady UNIQUE case lube a test drive ... and experienced no issues while sizing several hundred cases.
 
This is why I stopped using One Shot (that and the cans always ran out of propellant):

Danger!
Flammable liquid and vapor. Danger of serious damage to
health by prolonged exposure through inhalation.
Breathing vapors may cause drowsiness and dizziness. Causes
eye and skin irritation. Toxic to aquatic organisms,
may cause long-term adverse effects in
the aquatic environment. Possible risk of impaired fertility. Aspiration
hazard if swallowed. Can enter lungs and cause damage.
Hazard Statements
(H): H225 - Highly flammable liquid and vapour
. H304 - May be fatal if
swallowed and enters
airways. H315 - Causes skin irritatio
n. H336 - May cause drowsiness or dizzi
ness. H361 - Suspected of damaging
fertility or the unborn child. H373 - May cause damage to
organs through prolonged or repeated exposure. H411 -
Toxic to aquatic life with long lasting effects.
Precautionary Statements
(P): P210 - Keep away from heat/sparks/open
flames/hot surfaces – No smoking. P261 -
Avoid breathing dust/fume/gas/mist/vapours/spray. P273 -
Avoid release to the environment. P281 - Use personal
protective equipment as required. P301+310 - IF
SWALLOWED - Immediately call a POISON CENTER or
doctor/physician. P331 - Do NOT induce vomiting.
Poison Schedule: S5. HazChem Code: 3[Y].

http://www.hornady.com/assets/files/msds/OneShot_Case_Lube_MSDS.pdf
 
Well it's clear there is some connection to brand. I missed catching a Perfecta and I'll be drilling again. :rolleyes:

Hopefully I'll work near an LGS this week and I'll get to see what's available locally.
 
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