Anyone ever own a murder/suicide gun before?

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Apparently I now have one. I bought an old Colt 1903 (manufactured in the 1920s), it's worn but still shoots and functions fine. Now when I went to buy it (and I had already paid so it wasn't a sales pitch), I was told it was traded in by a Warrington Twp police officer who acquired it from seized evidence. I jokingly said, "oh well at least it didn't get used to kill anyone", to which I was told it apparently was used to kill two people trying to break into a guys house and the cop later acquired it after it no longer had evidentiary value/need. Now it could all be gun store bull, but there was no reason to tell me it as I had already bought the item. Now I can't (or haven't tried yet) to verify it's history), but it gives the gun an odd vibe when I hold it.


Though I guess it's a bit silly (as I know objects don't have personalities of their own and if you own milsurp there is a good chance it might have been used in combat), anyone else ever feel odd owning one?
 
I just purchased one. Used in a suicide. Police confiscated it. Held it til the case was finished. Police sold it to a police distributor who then sold it to an FFL, who then sold it to me.

There was full disclosure, including explaining that it still needed to be "disinfected". From the looks of it, the evidence technician hosed it down with water to clean all the fluids off.

It doesnt bother me that it was used in a suicide. It wasnt the gun's fault.
 
I just purchased one. Used in a suicide. Police confiscated it. Held it til the case was finished. Police sold it to a police distributor who then sold it to an FFL, who then sold it to me.

There was full disclosure, including explaining that it still needed to be "disinfected". From the looks of it, the evidence technician hosed it down with water to clean all the fluids off.

It doesnt bother me that it was used in a suicide. It wasnt the gun's fault.
For me the issue would be more the grey matter than anything else. They said at the store they just thought it was from someone using an abrasive chemical to clean it, but could it be dried blood IDK. I would think it odd for the cop to keep it so long like that.
 
Apparently I now have one. I bought an old Colt 1903 (manufactured in the 1920s), it's worn but still shoots and functions fine. Now when I went to buy it (and I had already paid so it wasn't a sales pitch), I was told it was traded in by a Warrington Twp police officer who acquired it from seized evidence. I jokingly said, "oh well at least it didn't get used to kill anyone", to which I was told it apparently was used to kill two people trying to break into a guys house and the cop later acquired it after it no longer had evidentiary value/need. Now it could all be gun store bull, but there was no reason to tell me it as I had already bought the item. Now I can't (or haven't tried yet) to verify it's history), but it gives the gun an odd vibe when I hold it.


Though I guess it's a bit silly (as I know objects don't have personalities of their own and if you own milsurp there is a good chance it might have been used in combat), anyone else ever feel odd owning one?

I own my father's 45 muzzleloader that he used to shoot himself in the head.

I'm also pretty damn certain that a few of my guns were used to kill others - notably, the German MG34 and German MG42. Probably the 1933 Spanish Mauser, too, and a good chance my old '03 Springfield, which served in TWO world wars.... Those guns weren't built for show, or shooting paper targets. Those were built in (or just prior to) wartime, and used for war.

It goes part and parcel with being a military arms collector - there's a certain reverence I have towards those old guns. When I shoot them, I shoot them with respect, and with a mindset which is respectful for those who may have shouldered them in the past.

But, as my wife put it:

I said, last night... "It's kind of creepy, in a way " (looking at the new-to-me German MG34 sitting in the livingroom floor) .. " that gun may have killed a lot of people."

My wife looks over and says "That gun hasn't killed anyone."

Confused, I look back at her .. "How in the hell do you figure THAT? You weren't there, neither was I.. we don't know."

She said "I know that gun hasn't killed anyone. At one point the bullets that came OUT of it might have killed people, but the gun itself didn't kill anyone. I doubt anyone used it to beat someone to death. It's too big and doesn't have one of those pointy things you can put on the end."

I looked at her, pretty surprised, and said "So you don't mind if we hang it on the wall?"

"As long as that means you won't leave it sit on the damn livingroom carpet like you did those others for a month!"

Gotta love 'er.
 
Yeah I'm wondering where all the recent "suicide gun" threads have popped up from. Must be something out there I'm missing on the social media sites. Either that, or just a heck of a coincidence. Two threads about it on the front page on here right now. :)
 
Yeah I'm wondering where all the recent "suicide gun" threads have popped up from. Must be something out there I'm missing on the social media sites. Either that, or just a heck of a coincidence. Two threads about it on the front page on here right now. :)
Well in fairness mine wasn't a suicide gun...well except indirectly for the people who tried the B&E.
 
I have a K-22 that was used in a suicide. It was kinda strange the first time I fired it afterward.
Grey matter FTF?

Interesting everyone says suicide gun, but has no one ever gotten a homicide gun (for lack of a better term)?
 
Ju-Ju?

OK.. I *do* believe that objects can be cursed. We had an Intel storage server that failed 3 times in the first year - first, RAID backplane died. Second, redundant PDU bridge died. Third, mainboard, one CPU, and three sticks of RAM (of 6) died.

Intel said they wouldn't replace the server, entirely, would only give us replacement parts. I said "to hell with the parts, I want a new SERVER. This one is CURSED." Took a month of arguing with them to get a new chassis. :)

Fortunately, these types of "failures" with firearms typically mean they are blown to little pieces over a 20 yard radius, ending the "curse"...
 
Yes.
Have a 12ga over-under Stevens used by a neighborhood good-guy senior, one of the nicest guys ever met. Got his doctor's verdict at age 93, and cut everything short. I had to take THE dent out of the upper barrel.
 
Yeah I'm wondering where all the recent "suicide gun" threads have popped up from. Must be something out there I'm missing on the social media sites. Either that, or just a heck of a coincidence. Two threads about it on the front page on here right now. :)

I was too. It was a bit weird for me because the gun I bought popped up on my radar when the threads started showing up.
 
I have the gun that my best friend since junior high school killed himself with. I shoot it every so often to remember him. He killed himself Sept 19, 2009. September has been a rough month for me since. That kind of pain never stops.

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I have an inherited Belgian made Browning .32 (Model 1922 I believe). I got it from my Grandmother, it came to the family in Texas after a small girl found it and killed herself playing with it. Every time I look at it it reminds me to keep firearms away from small children.
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Fuzzy, but the only picture of it I think I have;

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Cap & ball 45 in the top left of the cabinet is the gun my father shot himself with.
 
I have an 8mm Lebel French rifle that was used in WWI. Probably nobody was ever killed with it... :neener:

My wife, at the time, said it was incomplete because I didn't get the white flag attachment with it.
 
My aunt had a revolver that her husband used to kill a train robber with,it was an old break top.I was given the gun.To my dismay,I had a smith check it over before firing it myself due to its age and it spit lead on his hands from being out of time,Left some nasty little cuts.He ended up getting it for free simply because I felt bad about the whole thing.
 
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