Anyone getting one of the AIM shooter enfield 2a for $99

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I know you are correct,on the 2 different types of 2a's.
That said,I've got a pair of them now. I've got too many 308's
now,don't need another mouth to feed.
My first 2a's were in EXE. condition. They are keepers for sure.
The whole 12 rd. bolt thing "turns me on"!!:D

MRI
 
Looks there is a 2a and 2a1 model. 2a having a .303 sight out to 2000m and a 2a1 with a 308 sight out to 800m.

Have to look which one i have and maybe i can order the other one from them.

Brion
 
I don't have any experience with what AIM has now, but looks like it could be a nice shooter with a not so nice stock. I'd pick it up at that price.
 
I think 1965 was the break year. Pre-1965 is a 2A, and post-1965 is a 2A1. Both types were made in 1965. This is from my head, not gospel. I hope someone will confirm, as I don't have time right now to check.
 
I just ordered one of the shooter specials along with an M38. Supposed to ship out monday.

I've been looking for a good barreled action to turn into a sporter and I figured since the stocks on these are beat to hell I wouldn't feel as bad putting a synthetic stock on it.

$99 for a 308 is impossible to beat.
 
Orded mine today. Would not take a request for a specfic model. Oh well hope to get a 2A1. But if not, its still a deal.

Brion
 
Got this data from another firearms forum..

The topic of these 7.62X51 Indian rifles came up recently.
I am pasting the text that was the most significant response.
I am not saying that WLA agrees or disagrees with the points presented.
I am just sharing this for its informational value. As firearms owners we make our own decisions!

Regards,
Richard C. Hamer


>> On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, Dennis Kroh (Empire Arms) wrote:
>>
>
>>>> AIM purchased *ALL* of the Ishapore 2A's that were imported by Gun Parts Corp. . . nobody else has any for sale (unless they came from AIM first).
>
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>> Since I have you here Dennis...
>>
>> You had posted something years ago about how dangerous these are to shoot
>> an that Empire Arms would never ever sell them again. Does this
>> still hold true?


That is correct, we neither buy nor sell Ishapore Enfields chambered in 7.62 NATO.

We had done so when they were first imported, but over HALF of the ones we bought and sold during that period ended up with headspace problems that relegated them to "wallhanger" status after firing as little as one box of commercial .308 Winchester ammo in them.

The first sign of trouble was that the extractor broke off and the owners wanted to know where they could obtain a replacement extractor. Further inspection of their rifle found that the headspace of every one of the suspect rifles (though they had been previously checked by us before selling them) had been stretched beyond FIELD limits and were no longer safe to fire (it was the extreme bulging of the base of the case that caused the extractor to break).

I have personally seen one person (thank GOD he didn't buy it from us) at a local range, get severely injured in the groin after his Model 2A1 Ishapore Enfield had a intense gas-rupture and "let go" when firing it, blowing the loaded magazine under high-pressure out of the rifle and landing between his legs. This "accident" required major hospitalization and surgery to repair his grievous and painful injury.

This guy was so CLEVER that even after the extractor broke-off of his
Ishapore Model 2A1 rifle (hello. . . serious WARNING SIGN there. . . ) he continued to shoot it at the range while simply knocking out the empty case after every shot by running a cleaning-rod down the barrel rather than attempt to purchase another extractor!

Little wonder that his wife forbid him from owning even a single firearm after that experience (we ended up buying every gun he owned or will ever own from her).

Dennis Kroh, owner, Empire Arms
e-mail: [email protected]
95 Seminole Ave, Ormond Beach FL 32176
(386) 677-7314 FAX only (386) 677-7324
web-site: <http://www.empirearms.com>
 
I havn't heard a problem on here from the people who got one from AIM. I know quite a few got one. I havn't shot mine yet though.

IMHO sounds like the problem may be the Ammo. They mentioned .308 commerical ammo. However the gun is chambered in 7.62x51. I seem to remmember the .308 is loaded to a higher pressure. And why the milsurp guns chambered in 7.62x51 should use the only the 7.62 and not commerical .308.

Anyone else?

Brion
 
the 7.62 x 51 is a higher pressure modern cartridge. the .303 locks up at the back and the 303 is a lot lower pressure.
 
the solution to this is, of course, to simply reload 308 to low pressures. i plan to shoot nothing but 110gr 30 carbine bullets in mine. no need to worry about excessive pressure there, i think, since I will be shooting starting loads only.
 
.308/7.62mm same same.

Especially when the boxes have "both" calibers on them. As long as you check the 2A rifle with 7.62 FIELD gages and it passes you should have nothing to worry about.

Heaven forbid...I just shot 60 rounds of Hirtenberg .308 190grn "Match" ammo out of my FAL Saturday...no problems.
 
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Have one coming today... and it will only shoot 7.62x51, or .308 brass loaded way down. The "low recoil" .308 ammo is also said to be OK.

Got one @$169 when they first came out; it shoots fine (2A). Hoping for a 2A1.

Synthetic stock if it's a mess...
 
The 2A just came.

Not bad! Won't need a synthetic stock; there's two small (1/2") odd grained strips on the left side- other than that it's a 2A (not an A1) pretty much like my other one.

Maybe a little smellier and dirtier. Looking at a lot of cleaning hours here to new rifle but it will happen.

Serials on parts match; mag too. Front sling swivel looks like homemade/repair. Mildly burred screw heads in some places (just like the other). Stoving paint worn on edges. Dirty for sure.

Worth it.
 
.308/7.62mm same same
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I don't know if I'd go that far 7.62 is rated for 50k psi and proofed 67,500 psi. .308 is rated for 62k psi max and proofed at 83-89k psi. If you treat them as the same you might wind up continually running a near proof load in a 40 something year old rifle. To each his own.

Anyway I got one, the stock has several repairs of the "learn gunsmithing at home" quality level. I think it'll clean up to be a fine shooter.
 
Just don't run a steady diet of light-mags out of it and you'll be fine. i shoot 150 grain winchester power points out of my enfield just fine.
 
Mine should be here tommorrow. I think if you shoot only the 7.62 surplus in it, you should be fine.

Brion
 
As usual this topic always brings out the 7.62/308 issue (which there is none).

The confusion between these two cartridges stems from the way the pressures were measured then reported. Shoot military 7.62 in the same test rifle as your 308 ammo and pressures will all be within the same margin.

According to SAAMI the .308 round has a MAP of 62,000psi and this is with a piezo transducer "not" a copper crusher (CUP) like the military standards were. They measure the same thing but in a different way so the results will not be the same even though the effects are the same. Just FYI 62,000 psi (piezo) converted is ~52,000 CUP which is what the Army specs for 7.62 are in.
 
As usual this topic always brings out the 7.62/308 issue (which there is none).

The confusion between these two cartridges stems from the way the pressures were measured then reported. Shoot military 7.62 in the same test rifle as your 308 ammo and pressures will all be within the same margin.

According to SAAMI the .308 round has a MAP of 62,000psi and this is with a piezo transducer "not" a copper crusher (CUP) like the military standards were. They measure the same thing but in a different way so the results will not be the same even though the effects are the same. Just FYI 62,000 psi (piezo) converted is ~52,000 CUP which is what the Army specs for 7.62 are in.
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Sounds plausible but I'd feel a whole lot better if you could support it with other documentation.
 
$99 for a 2a is awfully tempting, but I need another enfield like I need another hole in the head.


Q? How 'generous' are the chambers on these rifles? The single Ishapore rifle I do have is in .303, its headspace is ok, but it is still hell on brass.
 
Be sure to remove the action from the stock and look for corrosion. I bought one 8 years ago, or so, when they were cheap, and found pitting on the barrel near the rear barrel band so deep that I did not think it safe to shoot. It was really deep, perhaps halfway into the metal, but no longer active. As I had bought the rifle at Roses, I couldn't return it.

Ash
 
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