AK103K
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I got one a little while ago and had posted this on another board. Figured I'd save myself some typing, so I copied it here.
"I got my SU-16 about a week ago and got to take it out on about one of the coldest days we have had around here in awhile. It was 15* and windy. I got to fire 150 rounds at 25 and 50 yards. This was a "just to get to shoot it trip" so its not any kind of wring it out type report. From what I've seen so far just playing with it, its not a flimsy, thrown together rifle. Mine is tight, and seems to be well made and thought out. The bipod is functional and works, but I probably will not use it much. The gun is tight when open and has no wiggle or wobble. You would never know it folded if they didnt tell you. You just push the pin out with a bullet or drift and it folds in two. The pin stores in its hole with a retaining clip, but this is the only thing I dont like about the gun. I know it will get lost easy if not secured some other way. This is something I'm going to have to think about. The safety is rounded on one side and hollow on the other. It grabs your fingertip when you put your finger on it and is very positive to flick off. The safety is also reversible for leftys. The rifle comes with two 10 round plastic Keltec mags and a sight tool.
Here are a couple of pics. These are pretty much what the rest of the targets look like as they didnt vary much for each distance.
I shot it first at 25 yards just leaning on the bench. (I forgot it had a bipod
) This is the first 10 round group I shot, point of aim was 6 o'clock on the bull.:
The next pic is 10 rounds offhand aiming about center and just fired in a nice rhythm:
The next is 10 rounds at 50 yards fired off the bipod( I remembered I had one now ) It was shot off the bench and point of aim was again 6 o'clock on the bull.
I didnt adjust the sights at all today and they pretty much shot right on where you aimed it. I was expecting recoil like an AR and it was a little stiffer. I suppose its due to the different type stock, and lighter weight. The Keltec mags fed flawlessly, the USGI M16 mags had some troubles at first. The GI mags go into the gun a little snug but lock up fine. What happened at first is the bolt carrier weas hanging up on the rear of the mag and took about 3 trys to get it to feed. This was with both mags I had with me. After the second or third try, they loaded and fed fine the rest of the time. The carrier wore spots on both mags in the same place. The shiny spot on the rear of the mag is where it was hitting in this pic:
Both mags wore the same way, heavier on the right side and just slightly on the left. I guess the carrier was trimming the mag and once done, they fed fine. You will probably need to check and dedicate the mags you use, at least I'm probably going to have to. These mags were both made by the same contractor and may be another with have no trouble at all, I guess you'll just have to check them. The GI mag fits snugly in the stock and does take a little effort to get it out. Mostly because it hard to get a hold of it to pull on it. The rifle is a little muzzle heavy without a loaded mag in the stock, but balances much better with a loaded 30 rounder in there. All in all, its a pretty cool little rifle and so far, for as little as I've shot it, I like it. Its not meant to be your main gun, not that you couldnt use it that way, but I think its meant more to be a truck or boat type gun that stows out of the way but is there when you need it. I think it would make a good backpacker too. By the way, I dont know how many they have out there yet, but mine is serial number 3xx. So now I'm really scared! I hate being the guinea pig. Before you listen to the bad mouthing from the Internet, I'd check one out, and if possible shoot one. I think they have a place in the scheme of things."
One thing about the GI mags, some seem to work without trouble, my Colt mags cycle fine by hand, while others from the same maker I had trouble with hang up in the same place for about the same number of rounds but do start to feed once "broke in". I have others that still had the bolt carrier hit the top of the mag, but not as bad and did work after one or two tries. I still havent fired these yet, but I think they will most likely work if they cycle by hand, but I'll have to see for sure. As for getting them out of the stock, I put a piece of inner tube around the mag I have in the gun at the point where you can grab it through the stock. This does make it a lot easier to get the mag out.
I have since taken the rear sight off and put a Beeman SS 3 1.5x4 air rifle scope on it. The rear sight just wont fit with the scope on where I like it, but the scope has a "see thru" mount, and the channel you see thru is like a ghost ring itself, so I might still have a peep so to speak. I was going to put a dot sight on it, but I think the scope will be the better choice.
All in all so far, its a cool little rifle and we'll just have to see how it goes. My Kel Tec P32 worked great at first and then decided it didnt like me anymore, so I'm watching this one close.
"I got my SU-16 about a week ago and got to take it out on about one of the coldest days we have had around here in awhile. It was 15* and windy. I got to fire 150 rounds at 25 and 50 yards. This was a "just to get to shoot it trip" so its not any kind of wring it out type report. From what I've seen so far just playing with it, its not a flimsy, thrown together rifle. Mine is tight, and seems to be well made and thought out. The bipod is functional and works, but I probably will not use it much. The gun is tight when open and has no wiggle or wobble. You would never know it folded if they didnt tell you. You just push the pin out with a bullet or drift and it folds in two. The pin stores in its hole with a retaining clip, but this is the only thing I dont like about the gun. I know it will get lost easy if not secured some other way. This is something I'm going to have to think about. The safety is rounded on one side and hollow on the other. It grabs your fingertip when you put your finger on it and is very positive to flick off. The safety is also reversible for leftys. The rifle comes with two 10 round plastic Keltec mags and a sight tool.
Here are a couple of pics. These are pretty much what the rest of the targets look like as they didnt vary much for each distance.
I shot it first at 25 yards just leaning on the bench. (I forgot it had a bipod
) This is the first 10 round group I shot, point of aim was 6 o'clock on the bull.:
The next pic is 10 rounds offhand aiming about center and just fired in a nice rhythm:
The next is 10 rounds at 50 yards fired off the bipod( I remembered I had one now
) It was shot off the bench and point of aim was again 6 o'clock on the bull.
I didnt adjust the sights at all today and they pretty much shot right on where you aimed it. I was expecting recoil like an AR and it was a little stiffer. I suppose its due to the different type stock, and lighter weight. The Keltec mags fed flawlessly, the USGI M16 mags had some troubles at first. The GI mags go into the gun a little snug but lock up fine. What happened at first is the bolt carrier weas hanging up on the rear of the mag and took about 3 trys to get it to feed. This was with both mags I had with me. After the second or third try, they loaded and fed fine the rest of the time. The carrier wore spots on both mags in the same place. The shiny spot on the rear of the mag is where it was hitting in this pic:
Both mags wore the same way, heavier on the right side and just slightly on the left. I guess the carrier was trimming the mag and once done, they fed fine. You will probably need to check and dedicate the mags you use, at least I'm probably going to have to. These mags were both made by the same contractor and may be another with have no trouble at all, I guess you'll just have to check them. The GI mag fits snugly in the stock and does take a little effort to get it out. Mostly because it hard to get a hold of it to pull on it. The rifle is a little muzzle heavy without a loaded mag in the stock, but balances much better with a loaded 30 rounder in there. All in all, its a pretty cool little rifle and so far, for as little as I've shot it, I like it. Its not meant to be your main gun, not that you couldnt use it that way, but I think its meant more to be a truck or boat type gun that stows out of the way but is there when you need it. I think it would make a good backpacker too. By the way, I dont know how many they have out there yet, but mine is serial number 3xx. So now I'm really scared! I hate being the guinea pig. Before you listen to the bad mouthing from the Internet, I'd check one out, and if possible shoot one. I think they have a place in the scheme of things."
One thing about the GI mags, some seem to work without trouble, my Colt mags cycle fine by hand, while others from the same maker I had trouble with hang up in the same place for about the same number of rounds but do start to feed once "broke in". I have others that still had the bolt carrier hit the top of the mag, but not as bad and did work after one or two tries. I still havent fired these yet, but I think they will most likely work if they cycle by hand, but I'll have to see for sure. As for getting them out of the stock, I put a piece of inner tube around the mag I have in the gun at the point where you can grab it through the stock. This does make it a lot easier to get the mag out.
I have since taken the rear sight off and put a Beeman SS 3 1.5x4 air rifle scope on it. The rear sight just wont fit with the scope on where I like it, but the scope has a "see thru" mount, and the channel you see thru is like a ghost ring itself, so I might still have a peep so to speak. I was going to put a dot sight on it, but I think the scope will be the better choice.
All in all so far, its a cool little rifle and we'll just have to see how it goes. My Kel Tec P32 worked great at first and then decided it didnt like me anymore, so I'm watching this one close.
