Are Blazer 40gn .22LR and CCI Mini-Mag 40gn LR the Same?

[Joshua M. Smith]

Hello,

I got to looking at the specs on these two cartridges. Both are 40gn @ 1235fps, and both are headstamped CCI.

I would like to use the Blazers to practice and the CCI to hunt. However, I don't want to be contaminating the CCI lube with Blazer lube or vice versa. Therefore, does anyone know if they use the same stuff? I don't want to sight in one only to find out that the POI has shifted and end up having to shoot 20 just to get the barrel re-seasoned.

The CCI Mini-Mags let me hit small game at 100yds; the Blazer is not 100% consistent beyond 50yds or so. In other words, given a 1" PB for the vitals, I'm confident of hitting it with the Mini-Mags, not so much the Blazers.

I do form both in D Rock's tool, but Blazers just have more variation from cartridge to cartridge when powder charges and bullet weights are concerned.

Thanks,

Josh

 

[Runningman]

I don't want to be contaminating the CCI lube with Blazer lube or vice versa. Therefore, does anyone know if they use the same stuff?

Yes, CCI uses the same paraffin based wax lube on all their Short, Long, and Long rifle 22s.

 

[Joshua M. Smith]

Thank you very, very much!

Josh

 

[Dookie]

No they are not.
CCI makes the Blazer. The Blazer is a 40 lead lubed round. The CCI Mini Mag is a 40 copper washed non lubed bullet.
POI will be close and the Blazer, my favorite bulk round, would be a good practice round for the MM. The MM is a higher quality round though, as seen in the price.
The lube should not interfere with the accuracy of the MM, if you are worried that it might, or have found that it does, clean the barrel.

 

[Runningman]

No they are not.
CCI makes the Blazer. The Blazer is a 40 lead lubed round. The CCI Mini Mag is a 40 copper washed non lubed bullet.

I take it you have never looked at a CCI Catalog? CCI has boasted about using "hard bullet lube" on their 22 S,L, & LR for decades. They are always pointing to their CCI Mini Mag when they state this.

 

[Dookie]

The Blazer is not even listed on CCI's website. The copper wash IS the lube. Blazer uses a wax/grease style, Mini Mag uses a hard lube IE copper wash. But none of this matters as the ballistics of the two are similar and the Blazer can be used as practice ammo for the Mini Mag.

http://www.cci-ammunition.com/products/detail.aspx?use=5&loadNo=0030

http://www.blazer-ammo.com/rimfire.aspx
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=133745

 

[Bill B.]

I think if you will check on your box of CCI Blazer it will show it made by a division of ATK. They also make some of the Federal .22 ammo. CCI Mini Mags are made in a different plant entirely: CCI, Lewiston, ID. Some of the .22 Blazer has a dark lube and some it has a dry lube basically just looks the color of lead. It would stand to reason that the 2 different Blazers come from different plants but I have never checked on the box to see if that's the case. Regardless of which lube the Blazer ammo I have used has it has generally performed about equally. So in answer to your question 1 of the 2 might be the same type of lube without the copper wash but more than likely no it going to be different.

 

[oneounceload]

ATK owns the CCI-Speer family, among many others

 

[bhk]

Like all other copper-washed ammo, CCI mini-mags have a lube in addition to the copper wash. If in doubt, ask CCI to confirm. Others have. The lube is a hard lacquer type and hard to detect, but it is there. Leading would be severe without it. The copper-wash on .22s is way too thin to offer any protection from leading.