ATF's Milwaukee Sting Operation Marred By Mistakes, Failures

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Oh, yeah. Let's put these guys in charge of our guns....

http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/wa...-failures-mu8akpj-188952581.html?abc=Ct5vpWpS


ATF's Milwaukee sting operation marred by mistakes, failures

A store calling itself Fearless Distributing opened early last year on an out-of-the-way street in Milwaukee's Riverwest neighborhood, offering designer clothes, athletic shoes, jewelry and drug paraphernalia.

Those working behind the counter, however, weren't interested in selling anything.

They were undercover agents from the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives running a storefront sting aimed at busting criminal operations in the city by purchasing drugs and guns from felons.

But the effort to date has not snared any major dealers or taken down a gang. Instead, it resulted in a string of mistakes and failures, including an ATF military-style machine gun landing on the streets of Milwaukee and the agency having $35,000 in merchandise stolen from its store, a Journal Sentinel investigation has found.

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If even half true this story is sad on so many fronts. Any government employee is human and can and do make mistakes, but this appears to reek of gross carelessness and gross incompetence on the part of the agents involved.

Equally sad to me, is I can remember when the A.T.F. was one of the premier federal law enforcement agency's in the country. Have the mighty fallen so far?
 
Disgusting. I love how the ATF can use a fake identity to sign a contract, then threaten the other party with criminal behavior when he tries to collect for services and damages. If I did that, I'd go to jail for fraud.

I've had largely good experiences with ATF examiners and field reps, but their enforcement branch is a joke that needs to be dismantled. There are numerous other agencies that are already in the law enforcement game that should be doing that work, and these clowns cause more problems than they solve.

Here's hoping someone gets fired over this debacle and they undertake a massive shake-up of policy and personnel, but I'm pretty sure nothing will come of it.
 
I hope they come back to Milwaukee. I don't have enough money for an NFA registered full auto at the moment, but hey, if the ATF is around FREE MACHINE GUNS FOR EVERYONE!!!

They offered a similar deal to Mexico not to long ago I heard.
 
Oh, wow! They need to go to a simple business class. Maybe interview some businesses to find out what is required to actually run a "real" business. Hooking up an alarm system and protecting your guns might be another idea. Maybe even knowing how much a gun is worth would be a good idea.

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Assuming the "ATF military like machine gun" really is a machine gun (the Journal Sentinel is notoriously anti-gun and is loose with their terminology on such), I want to know what kind of trouble average Joe would get into if he lost his Title II full auto in such a careless way?
 
I like this quote from a retired BATF big wig. "I have never heard of those kinds of problems in an operation,"

When it became clear to me that the ATF could have, on numerous occasions, arrested David Koresh away from his compound near Waco, I thought to myself that these are a bunch of idiots that give little weight to what might happen if things don't go as planned. My thoughts haven't changed.
 
... I can remember when the A.T.F. was one of the premier federal law enforcement agency's in the country. Have the mighty fallen so far?


When was that? The linked story is typical of the F-troop since as far back as I can remember.
 
Surprise surprise. But hey, we don't need guns to protect ourselves, these outstanding government officials will do that for us! :rolleyes:
 
How is any of this even their job? Doesn't this prove this should have been handled by either local LEO or FBI? Since when is breaking up local "criminal operations" within the ATF's madate?

We need to just scratch the ATF line out of the budget. Completly cease to exist.
 
It's like there isn't a use for them, so they create crimes to solve in an effort to make themselves useful, but then they end up losing control and fully automatic M4's end up in the hands of criminals.
 
Thanks for posting ... Mark Belling (Milwaukee Conservative Talk Show Host) spent nearly all of his daily 3 hours covering this story today ... even had one of the reporters on. The story was so well done that I actually had to go out and buy a copy of the J-S to be able to hold it in my hands!

Somebody needs to ask our officials who want to ban ouw "assault weapons" how they feel about having a REAL assault weapon loose on the streets of Milwaukee. Wonder how long before it makes it's way to Chicago?
 
Equally sad to me, is I can remember when the A.T.F. was one of the premier federal law enforcement agency's in the country. Have the mighty fallen so far?
In an alternate reality, maybe? ATF has always, as long as I can remember, been the "stepchild" of the Federal LE agencies, not even close to the professionalism once associated with, say, the FBI or Secret Service. Remember, they were not taken seriously as an LE agency; they were just tax collectors. Waco was their effort to try to show the big boys (FBI HRT, etc.) that they were real "operators," and we know how that turned out.
 
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