ATF's Milwaukee Sting Operation Marred By Mistakes, Failures

[oldbear]

When was that? The linked story is typical of the F-troop since as far back as I can remember.

Hank,

Try the late 60's and early 70's. Things were very different then, fewer restrictions on civilians, a much more limited selection of firearms, fewer active gun owners, and a different mind set on both sided of the debate.

 

[Ignition Override]

People in public have a blank stare when they are asked if they heard or saw anything about the Arbitrarily Tyrannical & Fubab.

 

[OptimusPrime]

I am flabbergasted when I read stories like that. So many hypocrisies and quasi-illegal steps. Isn't this entrapment? When did the ATF include drugs in its purview? And why do they bother with doing it this way? We all know where the drugs and criminals are, all of us, all of our towns, every single American can point to the street corner or house where the bad guys are. So these guys have to set up a store front, pay rent, and play house for months to get a few arrests that won't stick? And at the end of the operation the balance shows: the ATF spent a ton of money, some local citizens MADE some cash, and some thief scored an automatic weapon.
I'll say it again; someone needs to close the ATF loophole. They're dangerous.

 

[LKB3rd]

I wouldn't be surprised if this was another Fast and Furious, with the key point being it was not botched. They were intentionally running guns so that when violence ensues, they can use it to go after law abiding gun owners.

 

[ApacheCoTodd]

If a movie were made of this particular weirdness it would have to be a Cohn Brothers/Mel Brooks sort of affair.

No one would believe it other than a comedy.

Or: MASH meets ATF.

 

[ilmonster]

I wish I knew about this operation when it was going on. I could have bought a few Glocks, M&P's etc. for $500 at Cabela's or Gander and gone to their little operation and sold them for $1,000+. Plus, having three guns including an actual "assault weapon" stolen out of their vehicle - priceless. Good to know someone is running around Milwaukee with a full auto M4...really guys!?!?!?!?

 

[ilmonster]

I guess it's too much to ask for this to be on the evening news..."federal agency loses a real "assault weapon" in a month long sting operation...". Maybe showing what this M4 being shot on full auto looks like compared to a Colt, DD, BCM's that all of us own being shot as a semi-auto would be illuminating to the unknowing.

 

[OptimusPrime]

I wish I knew about this operation when it was going on. I could have bought a few Glocks, M&P's etc. for $500 at Cabela's or Gander and gone to their little operation and sold them for $1,000+. Plus, having three guns including an actual "assault weapon" stolen out of their vehicle - priceless. Good to know someone is running around Milwaukee with a full auto M4...really guys!?!?!?!?

Oh, don't worry, that M4 isn't in Milwaukee. 45 minutes after the theft that M4 was sold on a Chicago streetcorner for $150 in pills.

 

[bigfatdave]

Isn't it redundant to include the words "ATF" and "Mistakes" or "Failures" in the same sentence?

Doesn't the "F" stand for "fail"?
And remember, it isn't the ATF, it is the BATFE.

We need to get these clowns out of the gun-running business before congress creates a new federal LE agency just to handle BATFE cases.
Maybe get them into lottery regulation, re-brand as the "ATL" for:
Alcohol
Tobacco
Lottery

It would make the old jokes about "gee, that should be a convience store! hurdeee har har!" much funnier.

 

[JRH6856]

ATF = Absolute Total Failure (or choose your own F word.)