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It really is a good deal, and having taken two courses from these guys at Gunstock, I'll tell you that we'd really be getting our money's worth. Remember though, that the $35 wouldn't cover your ammo for the course, but you guys would probably be sending just as much downrange that week anyway. :D
 
Before we get too willing to commit to a date, let's check the calendar for the guys at TIGER Valley. This will show events being held both here at the local location, as well as Waco.

http://tigervalley.com/calendar.htm

The facilities are good, but the instructors are few, so it's not like there are teams of them to handle all the courses simultaneously. geegee
 
Looks like they have a big competition going on the weekend of the 16-18, you might want to email them to see when is a good time geegee. I'm free pretty much every weekend so the date doesn't matter much to me.
 
The yahoo thing is cool.

Feel free to share my contact info.

The course idea sounds very appealing especially since one of us knows how good the instructors are. $35 sounds reasonable too.

How far is T.I.G.E.R. Valley from DFW?

Nik
 
I'm open to either Sat or Sun.
Talking about @ the Shooting Gallery again?

BTW: Stopped by the Shooting Gallery after work today and they were having their 1st IDPA shoot.

Went over after shooting and watched them a bit.
Spoke briefly w/ Greg Whitmore - Pres. of IDPA Dallas. He was there to get the Cross Timbers (FW IDPA up and running).
Looked to be about 35+ people there, assuming was a mix of Cross Timbers and Dallas IDPA.
Greg said it looks like they are going to be doing a semi-monthly gig here in FW @ the Shooting Gallery.

Contacts:
http://www.idpa.com/clubs.asp?Organization=I D P A - Dallas
http://www.idpa.com/clubs.asp?Organization=Cross Timbers I D P A

Andrew is the primary contact for here in Ft. Worth. Did not have a chance to talk w/ him.
Had 2 courses of fire set in the over-flow range we were last Sunday. on each side.
Looks like TONS of FUN.

P.S. Free to share my info on Yahoo
 
GeeGee,

Didn't realize TIGER had a location in Dallas.

Are we talking about doing the course here or in Waco? Just curious.
I'm game either place. Sounds like a bargain at twice the price.:D

What type of course are considering or do they suggest?
 
I'm free pretty much every weekend so the date doesn't matter much to me.
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Just so everyone is clear on this, we don't necessarily have to do a weekend. There is a possibility of doing something during the week, since we're basically talking about a two hour course. Just a thought.

How far is T.I.G.E.R. Valley from DFW?
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Nik-very easy to get to. It's actually part of the Elm Fork Range, located on Luna Rd, off of 635. Definitely easier to get to than the one outside of Waco!

http://tigervalley.com/north.htm
 
What type of course are considering or do they suggest?
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Here's the answer I received from T.J. Pilling, so you can see there will be plenty of courses we could request:

You bet, we have a 10 person requirement on the number of students. We can do it in the evening or on a weekend. The cost per shooter is $35.00. We have done several 2 hour mid-week classes. The last one was a low light class. We can cover a wide range of shooting topics like moving and shooting, moving targets, shooting from concealment, or what every you guys desire. Let me know
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"Just so everyone is clear on this, we don't necessarily have to do a weekend. There is a possibility of doing something during the week, since we're basically talking about a two hour course. Just a thought. "



Don't get me wrong...I'm motivated, but I would really need that date as far in advance as possible so that I can be sure to be off of work. It would suck gigantic nuts to get called in to work while sitting at a shooting range in Waco.

Besides...I don't want people missing out because we chose a weekday...if Nik can't make a week day, let's do it on a Sat. or Sunday. We can make a day of it. Can you say "ICE CHEST"? and "BEER"? after the shooting of course.:p

What course are we going to take?
 
:D Just got approval from my wife for up to $300 on a rifle. Birthdays and tax returns are great :D Persistance pays off too - hehehe.

So, it's looking like I might be properly equipped for a rifle shoot too. :evil:

Any suggestions for a good semi auto rifle for under or just around $300 are welcomed. I'm gonna need something that eats some sort of inexpensive ammo. Right now I'm considering SKS or AK but are there any other good ones out there?

I'm excited now! :D

Nik
 
Saiga....you won't get a decent AK for under 300.00. Avoid those Romanian things like the plague unless you "LIKE" to rebuild a gun you just bought. You can actually get a Saiga with a 22 inch barrel in the wood furniture, which is what I am desperately searching for. Otherwise get an EXCELLENT condition Yugo SKS from SOG AND a Russian Mosin Nagat 91/30 for your pinpoint accuracy shooter and still have about 75.00 left for scopes, stocks or ammo.

I am going to get one of the Nagats. I was tempted to get a Mitchel's Mauser for 200.00 as they are 8mm wonder's in terms of accuracy. But the Mosin and Mauser are both bolts. The Mosin's are available from SOG for 59.00....get a halfways decent Tasco and ATI stock and you have dropped a grand total of less than 200.:D


Me? I'm going for an SKS since....
1. there are a million after market mods and parts for them, you can turn it into anything your heart desires...except MOA at 300 yds..
2. they shoot the cheapest crappiest (cheapest) ammo on God's wonderful earth and they beg for more.
3. they won't be around forever.
4. Saiga is out of stock everywhere you call, though you could try CDNN.
5. Excellent condition ones? can be had for 120.00 and the Unissued ones for anywhere from 159.99-179.99.
 
Here are my thoughts on the stuff I missed last night:

I'd like to do an informal rifle shoot for April, not a Tiger Valley shoot (but I'll go with the group consensus). I'd also like to get 30 days notice on the course so I can actually schedule it. It think most of us have families so the more notice we have, the better.

I think I'd like to do a pistol course first at Tiger Valley. Alduro and Nik will have unproven rifles and will need some range time to get any kinks worked out. I could use some range time, too. Also, do we all have equipment to do a carbine course? You'd need a semi-auto rifle with detachable mags, and I think some of our group are ill-prepared for that. I'll be posting a poll on Yahoo about that.

Nik, I don't know if you are stuck on an AK, but Cetmes can be had for that price range, as well.
 
I just posted a few polls on Yahoo for our information regarding some courses.

Alduro, as our elected (oh, did we forget to tell you?) leader, let's get an event, date, and location nailed down for April. We've talked about several things, so if everyone could weigh in ASAP as to what/when/where we'd like to do, we could get the ball rolling.:D
 
OK, I gotta confess ignorance on my part relative to the training polls.

What is the proper equipment for:

1. A handgun course? Apart from the handgun, that is :confused: Never having been to one - I get the impression one is supposed to bring a full sized sidearm and OWB holster. True? If one should actually train with what one carries in the Texas summer, I could see the class slowing down while I fish a P7 out of a Kramer confidant :eek: Texas winter might see the occasional P7 from a Versa Max IWB - better but still slow and not usable for most of the year.

Admittedly, the Kramer results in a draw from concealment that can be timed with a sundial, but I haven't come up with an alternative yet. Until I learn to conceal a full-sized 1911 with a tucked-in shirt, using an OWB would seem about as real-life relevant as training for cowboy action shooting. Any input appreciated. My CHL has gone mostly unused and this might be a good time to rectify that.

2. A carbine course - I think I'm good to go - There's an as yet unfired frankengun in the safe - Rock River AR lower with Bushy dissipater upper. It is, however, "bare" - A2 sights, no sling, no light, no red dot - no nothin'. Would this work?

3. Shotgun - this poll I could answer: dont' own one. :eek:
I had some half-baked plans to get a stagecoach double for possible CAS - a shottie course pretty much needs a pump or semi, right?
 
What do you guys think of having the next get together on April 16 or 17? Will that work for everybody?
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As I posted earlier, this is the ONE weekend that I cannot make it. How about the next weekend of 4/24 & 4/25 instead?

The short training s sound very cool. I voted for handguns first just because I actually carry one most every day. Curious though, why the emphasis on carbine instead of rifle? What am I missing?
 
I'll add my .02 here. It would seem that while everyone would be on board for some handgun training, not everyone will be able to do a rifle course. That's no problem. It's not like we have to get everything done all at once. Many of us expressed a desire to make a THR get together a monthly (or so) event, so let's start with the basics. To that end, I would suggest a basic defensive pistol course.

I'll contact TJ Pilling again and run it by him. His partner tought a great Def. Pistol course one afternoon at Gunstock, and I'm sure it's one that all would benefit from. He covered a heck of a lot: drawing from a holster, tactical re-loads, hitting multiple targets, etc. I'm not saying that's what our course would be, because I don't know, but if they would offer something like that it would be great. I'll be back once I get some info. geegee
 
Hawk, I apoligize. I had meant to detail what you should have, but I didn't think people would respond so quickly. (Should have known. :D)

Handgun:
Needed: Handgun, holster, mags or speedloaders (or moonclips:D), holder for reloads (magpouch, etc.), concealment garment (vest or light jacket works great), safety gear.
Recommended: Kneepads, water, hat, "tactical" flashlight (if everyone's equipped then we have an option to go to low-light shooting.

Shotgun:
Needed: Repeating shotgun, ammo holder, safety gear.
Recommended: Sling and sidearm for transition drills, kneepads, water, hat.

Carbine:
Needed: Semi-auto rifle with detachable mags, mags, mag holders, safety gear.
Recommended: Sling and sidearm for transition drills, kneepads, water, hat.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head. If someone can jump in and fill in where I missed, that would be great.

Tiberius, maybe it's just semantics. When I think rifle, I think 100 yards+. When I think carbine, I think from CQB up to 100yds. That's just what's in my mind. If you've got other ideas, please share! :D
 
Oh yeah, whatever weekend is fine with me. I have a rather large project going down during April, so my availablility will be hit or miss. If I can't make it, I'll just catch up with y'all in May.
 
Tiberius, maybe it's just semantics. When I think rifle, I think 100 yards+. When I think carbine, I think from CQB up to 100yds. That's just what's in my mind. If you've got other ideas, please share!
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That's cool with me as long as I can use my M-1A, which ain't no carbine :D

I do have an SKS and .44Mag winchester 94 trapper which are real carbines but use the M-1A for serious stuff.
 
That's cool with me as long as I can use my M-1A, which ain't no carbine
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Where's that jealousy smiley? I've wanted an M1A for a while, but I keep putting off getting one. Most of my "serious" rifles are bolt action.
 
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