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Hearsay or anecdotes posted anonymously on the internet doesn't constitute experience in my book. And true knowledge isn't gained by reading opinions of others, with no experience, that just know something is a total pos either.
Avoid the Taurus GX4
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Buckeye63
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wow .. thats odd .. seems like they have been extremely reliable to most
Including myself .. actually Glock like reliability.. to me . Thst is .. I keep my pistols clean a lubed
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Regarding purchasing a firearm, sometimes I read the anecdotes for me to learn from, and sometimes I am the anecdote for others to learn from.
It would be nice if there was a place for firearms like there are for vehicles, such as https://www.carcomplaints.com/ or other sources. But there isn't, so we gotta dig on the web and research firearms reviews from professional publications, amateur sources, as well as mine a few firearms forums for anecdotes from people we never met. And we all know how most professional publications are financially biased to make any gun sound like a winner.
When it comes to firearms, I'm like @Skribs . Trust but verify . . . in person, gun in hand. But I gotta admit, my limited past experience with Taurus makes me only look at their revolvers, 1911s, and 92s anymore.
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Odd thread, conceptually.
"The issue is when any leftward force is applied to the trigger while it is depressed and the slide is cycling the trigger will not reset. This is an issue only when dry firing the trigger with the right hand, every time I dry fire left handed and reset the trigger it works fine."
So I actually got out my GX4, and I can't make mine do that while dry firing. I'll try again at the range next week while firing live ammo.
Very few posts have anything at all to do with the OP's specific issue.
"The issue is when any leftward force is applied to the trigger while it is depressed and the slide is cycling the trigger will not reset. This is an issue only when dry firing the trigger with the right hand, every time I dry fire left handed and reset the trigger it works fine."
So I actually got out my GX4, and I can't make mine do that while dry firing. I'll try again at the range next week while firing live ammo.
Very few posts have anything at all to do with the OP's specific issue.
I've been hearing about the maligned Taurus since I got into guns. My sister and her husband have owned many. I shot a few of them.
It's reputation means nothing to me. Taurus simply makes nothing that gets me excited.
Now, if they'd resurrect a few revolvers from days of yore, things would change.
It's reputation means nothing to me. Taurus simply makes nothing that gets me excited.
Now, if they'd resurrect a few revolvers from days of yore, things would change.
I've read about their reliability several times on forums, often accompanied by a statement of the length of time the pistol has been owned, which of course is essentially meaningless information. Most people don't put enough rounds through a pistol to really figure out how reliable it is, so for them, it's reliable because it's never been pushed hard. Generally, people are also not posting about their experiences, good or bad, on forums so I'm not sure if we can tell if they've been reliable to "most" by reading about them.
Keeping them well lubed certainly does help.
Your slide isn't cycling while you're dry firing.......
You can manually cycle the slide while holding the trigger.
Yes, I'm aware of that. That doesn't always produce the same types of forces that are at play when they gun is fired. It's certainly possible that the OP has a lemon and other GX4's do fine. Perhaps we'll find out when Tallball gets back with his range report.
No, but it can hint to issues which you will experience when live firing.
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The OP specified it wasn't resetting while dry firing, and that yes, he manually cycled the slide. I did the same thing, and I could not induce the same malfunction he said he was having, even after trying holding the trigger to both the right and left while pulling it and during reset.
I deliberately try not to ride resets, as I prefer function over any milliseconds gained in speed, but it is true some guns need to be function tested by firing. The Remington 1100 is a notable example of this. They will often jam up during hand functioning.
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The manufacturer of the model in question have examined their inventory and reproduced the issue described by the OP. What else do you want?
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Duh. The official communique from Taurus stated that he issue only affected a small percentage of the guns. Your experiments are in no way in conflict with either OPs or manufacturers' statements.
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Recoil may be the missing factor because I shot about 70 rds today and during my bormal trigger pull I didn't have any issue with the trigger not resetting. The only time it didn't was when I was intentionally pushing it hard to the left while pulling the trigger back.
When I wasn't putting an effort in to induce the failure it did not happen.
Other than that there were no issues and I shot up the last of my Winchester Forged ammo.
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I agree ..
90% of gun owners probably aren’t on any gun forums.. that goes for all brands of guns …
dogtown tom
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I've never owned a Taurus and never will. I don't need my own experience with crap guns, because my customers experiences tell me all I need to know.
Terry G
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If you have never shot or owned one and are prejudiced against them, why bother commenting on them? People brag the heck out of Glock 17's. I bought one and didn't like it at all. Just my opinion, but I could speak from personal experience.I've never owned a Taurus and never will. I don't need my own experience with crap guns, because my customers experiences tell me all I need to know.
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I've never owned a Taurus and never will. I don't need my own experience with crap guns, because my customers experiences tell me all I need to know.
I know.. can I believe a striker fired polymer pistol .. holy smokes .. nuthin like that will ever catch on …
Terry G
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If I ruled out every company that had a bad gun I wouldn't own anything including Military Surplus.
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There's a lot to be said about owning and having personal experience with a certain model of firearm and using that to form an opinion, but that falls into the "out of many, one" trap where you could be the only one or a select few with a bad gun. Then there's stuff like Rohm or Jennings which I doubt anyone has ever put thousands or rounds thru those without a problem, nor were those ever made for that purpose, they were a cheap pistol meant to be used only to test function and find out where the POI is and after that only when absolutely needed. I've never owned them, because it's common knowledge what they were and I'm not so destitute that I need such a cheap pistol, nor am I such an outlaw that I need drop guns.If you have never shot or owned one and are prejudiced against them, why bother commenting on them? People brag the heck out of Glock 17's. I bought one and didn't like it at all. Just my opinion, but I could speak from personal experience.
I will admit I jumped the gun with this topic because I formed an opinion of the GX4 I have before shooting it.
dogtown tom
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Well, because I'm informed enough to know that Taurus by and large is junk. Why bother commenting? Because I have the same rights to an opinion as you do.
I've never owned or driven a Yugo either. But I know they are junk. If someone were to ask "Is a Yugo a good car?" I could accurately tell them they are junk.
One doesn't need to have shot a .454 Casul to know it has stout recoil, and knowing that it does I wouldn't recommend it to a new shooter.
If the only comments allowed were those by Taurus fanboys, it would be a disservice to the gun community. Fanboys see no issues because their sample size is miniscule. I'll see more Taurus pistols and revolvers in my hands this month than you'll ever own. My sample size is bigger because I'm a gun dealer. People bring me guns to ship back to the factory or importer. I'll never tell a transfer customer that the gun they bought online is junk, they'll figure it out eventually. I also won't lie as to my opinion if asked. I don't stock any firearm, I do transfers only.....so I'm not trying to denigrate one brand just because I want to sell a different brand.
I disliked Glocks from the get go. No manual thumb safety, ugly, plastic, Euro trash plastic. I did appreciate the simplicity of the design and it's reliability.People brag the heck out of Glock 17's. I bought one and didn't like it at all. Just my opinion, but I could speak from personal experience.
Eventually I bought one. Then two, then it was five. Now its over a dozen: two or three 17's, 17C, 17L, 19, 19C, 22, 22C, 23C, 24, 44 and a 48. They are still ugly, but sometimes utilitarian aint pretty.
If I want pretty I pull out my Woodsmans or Hi Powers.
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dogtown tom
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It has nothing to do with being striker fired. I have dozens of striker fired handguns and find no fault with them.
In the case of Taurus its a matter of their design....as evidenced by the TCP issues and how Taurus refused to address it.
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I guess you had similar problems with your TCP , as I did with Ruger SP101s .. canted barrels, horrible yoke to frame fit and extremely ungodly trigger pulls .. Ruger told me everything wax in Spec
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