BATF--Screwup or Harrassment?

[J.J.]

I hate filling out those Forms (I work at Wal-Mart.. hardware but sometimes i have to run to sporting goods to do one cause no one around knows how)

Its SO easy to accidently leave something out. I.E. the County!

Or look over when someone puts Rd. or St. instead of the actual word.

Esp. since I don't do it everyday..

My small revenge is I am not typical when i call the Nics line.. I try to usually make the people laugh.. or flirt or etc. Cause its buisness as usual and i know they get tired of asking the same questions in a monotone voice all day long

 

[JohnKSa]

The letter was from Wal-Mart, and, if there is any harrassment, it's Wal-Mart being harrassed, not me. I didn't mean to imply that I felt I was harrassed, although I was a little put out about driving over there only to find it was their error.

As pointed out, the error was on the portion of the form Wal-Mart was to fill out. The Wal-Mart employee who got tasked with fixing the "errors" isn't the brightest person I've run into, and is a little freaked out about the whole thing. I think she just wrote letters to everyone who had a form that got dinged, without even looking at them to see what the problem was.

I can't remember if they spelled out CHL or wrote it out. I believe it was written out, but I wouldn't swear to it.

As for the abbreviation thing, I'm not talking about abbreviating street or place names, I'm talking about getting dinged for putting N/A instead of Not Applicable. BTW, the form actually uses "N/A" as an option for one of the questions IIRC.

The DOJ shut down the Wal-Marts in CA, but on who's recommendation? Did the DOJ audit the paperwork? I suspect that the BATF did the audit, found errors and turned the results over to the DOJ.

As pointed out, the TX CHL requires a state AND federal background check. Each time the license is renewed (every 4 years) these checks are performed again. TX DPS pays pretty close attention to the CHL records. It wouldn't surprise me to have them show up on the doorstep to retrieve it (or at least send you a notice to turn it in) if you did something that disqualified you from continuing to hold one. In fact, they'd probably confiscate it on the scene of the offense.

 

[Orthonym]

"Weep for the Republic " - Jerry Pournelle

 

[Erik]

"Your take?"

Sounds to me like Walmart had best make sure that they completely fill out the forms they submit to the feds.

(The one's which probably (I'd bet) come with instructions to completely fill out the required information, lest the seller come under closer scrutiny than they would prefer.)

 

[JohnKSa]

Erik,

My form WAS filled out properly. Even so, the auditing agent tagged it as a problem.

I should have put the word "error" in quotes in my last post to indicate that. Wal-Mart was told the form was filled out wrong, but the auditing agent was either mistaken, or just trying to yank their chain.

According to the Wal-Mart employee, I was the first of nearly 100 people to come in to fix forms. Now, it's certainly possible that there are that many forms that have errors, but I think it's a bit unlikely. Especially considering that the form of first person to report (me) was not improperly filled out at all.

 

[Gopher]

I’m sure they do, but the federal Department of Justice doesn’t know that the CHL holder hasn’t become a felon, mentally incompetent, or subject to a restraining order since he qualified for the CHL.

If one is guilty of any of these infractions the state pulls your CHL post haste. I'm sure they check to make sure it's still current.

 

[Gordon Fink]

I’ll take y’all’s word for it, but I also have to agree with Orthonym’s sentiment.

~G. Fink

 

[Byron Quick]

They're known as F Troop for very, good reasons. Basically, the ones who aren't vindictive are usually incompetent.

 

[Brad Johnson]

Some ATF auditors come in from out-of-state offices to help with local audits. Since they are unaware of the TX CHL vs NICS exclusion they automatically write up the form as incomplete. I saw one almost go into mental meltdown one day at a local shop when a customer and CHL holder picked up his new purchase and began to walkout with it (the ATF was conducting an on-site audit that day). I firmly believe that if one of the local ATF agents had not intervened, this out-of-state clown would have shot the poor customer out of sheer ignorance.

Excuse my typing & stuff. I had surgery on my arm Thurs and am doing this left-handed.

Brad