WillBrayJr
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Crossman has a Walther PPK/S that shoots only bbs and has blow back action. Oh well, just don't come crying to me when it breaks because I'm going to say I told you so!
BB gun for beginner?
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A ruger 10/22 would be a more beneficial 1st weapon. The live round aspect provides great motivation for adhering to the safety guidelines necessary to be a successful (breathing) shooter.
BB, pellet, and airsoft guns are toys made for children (and some immature adults) to make mischief with; which is nearly always the case. The urge to fire your airsoft pistol at the neighbor's dog, cat, or buttocks as they bend over to pick up the morning's paper can be a difficult one to resist.
For this reason, low fps, spring or gas fired weapons are a waste of time and money; that is of course unless you have no other alternative. The best thing that you can do is to find a range where you can take safety courses and practice using rentals.
BB, pellet, and airsoft guns are toys made for children (and some immature adults) to make mischief with; which is nearly always the case. The urge to fire your airsoft pistol at the neighbor's dog, cat, or buttocks as they bend over to pick up the morning's paper can be a difficult one to resist.
For this reason, low fps, spring or gas fired weapons are a waste of time and money; that is of course unless you have no other alternative. The best thing that you can do is to find a range where you can take safety courses and practice using rentals.
WillBrayJr
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y77bs said:A ruger 10/22 would be a more beneficial 1st weapon. The live round aspect provides great motivation for adhering to the safety guidelines necessary to be a successful (breathing) shooter.
BB, pellet, and airsoft guns are toys made for children (and some immature adults) to make mischief with; which is nearly always the case. The urge to fire your airsoft pistol at the neighbor's dog, cat, or buttocks as they bend over to pick up the morning's paper can be a difficult one to resist.
For this reason, low fps, spring or gas fired weapons are a waste of time and money; that is of course unless you have no other alternative. The best thing that you can do is to find a range where you can take safety courses and practice using rentals.
So, you're saying that alot of police departments that use them for live fire exercises are immature. Alot of people injoy the sport of airsoft. Airsoft guns alot fun on a rainy day. Just remember there are worst things a person can spend money on. I'm for anything that will keep kids away from the wrong crowd.
Dude, Grow the $%@# up.
Sorry to take issue with you friend but I own a single-shot pellet gun that is a great help in practicing breath and trigger control while in my backyard. Oh, and a few friends who never fired firearms found it an easy way into the use of handguns because they learned good habits without the distraction of BANG!.
Immature, huh? I would never think of shooting at my neighbor's dog or my neighbor's buttocks with an airsoft gun. But, you did. "Nuff said on that.
Oh, my pellet gun is a Beeman.
jeremywills
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hehehehe said that before
These are my 2 Airsoft guns, the 1911a1 being a Tokyo Mauri and the M9 being a UHC.
The Mauri's are not cheap. As you can see though, it has no orange tip, its a wonderful imitation, the paint and wood grips at first glance have made many folks to assume I broke the bank on a Colt Stainless until I handed to them and upon hands on inspection, they realize its a toy, pretty damned realistic looking one though.
I am very careful as to whom I show it to, like I said, at first glance it fools just about everyone and so point this at the wrong person and get into a lot of trouble.
The UHC is of cheaper quality, but is functional. The Orange tip gives it away immediately, this is the one I will use outside the house like in a backyard or to take elsewhere etc.... Im still very careful as you can just as much get into alot of trouble with that one.
Airsoft is a great way to have fun, get familiar with a particular setup etc... and do it safely. You still have to treat it as a dangerous item, point it at what you intend to shoot, wear eye protection as 6 mm BB's will put eyes out. Airsoft is more realistic looking than traditional .177 pellet/bb guns. Beauty of Airsoft is you can use them indoors.
Airsoft wars are fun, but you must and I repeat must do it safely.
Good luck with whatever you purchase. If you want the ultimate realistic, check this place out.
www.redwolfairsoft.com
I have done buisness with them in the past and they are a reputable Asian company. They are a great place to start looking, its amazing how many realistic looking replicas there are out there, some are crap, some are not, typically Redwolf deals with non crap.
Cheers
Jeremy
gudel said:did you see the prices on the tokyo marui? I could've bought a real gun for those prices!
These are my 2 Airsoft guns, the 1911a1 being a Tokyo Mauri and the M9 being a UHC.
The Mauri's are not cheap. As you can see though, it has no orange tip, its a wonderful imitation, the paint and wood grips at first glance have made many folks to assume I broke the bank on a Colt Stainless until I handed to them and upon hands on inspection, they realize its a toy, pretty damned realistic looking one though.
I am very careful as to whom I show it to, like I said, at first glance it fools just about everyone and so point this at the wrong person and get into a lot of trouble.
The UHC is of cheaper quality, but is functional. The Orange tip gives it away immediately, this is the one I will use outside the house like in a backyard or to take elsewhere etc.... Im still very careful as you can just as much get into alot of trouble with that one.
Airsoft is a great way to have fun, get familiar with a particular setup etc... and do it safely. You still have to treat it as a dangerous item, point it at what you intend to shoot, wear eye protection as 6 mm BB's will put eyes out. Airsoft is more realistic looking than traditional .177 pellet/bb guns. Beauty of Airsoft is you can use them indoors.
Airsoft wars are fun, but you must and I repeat must do it safely.
Good luck with whatever you purchase. If you want the ultimate realistic, check this place out.
www.redwolfairsoft.com
I have done buisness with them in the past and they are a reputable Asian company. They are a great place to start looking, its amazing how many realistic looking replicas there are out there, some are crap, some are not, typically Redwolf deals with non crap.
Cheers
Jeremy
jeremywills
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yes and yes
anything they hit at that FPS thats a hard surface and you had better be wearing some eye protection
It sounds like your after a Gas or Electric powered one, 480, thats quite powerful for airsofty guns, definately not a spring powered one, what is it exactly your interested in? If your planning to use it indoors, thats way too much power, I would like to know your exact intentions here please if you dont mind me asking.
If your wanting to get into Airsoft seriously, I know you stated you wanted something realistic
Check this site out
http://www.planetairsoft.net/
In there you will see some stuff that is nuts
It can get very addicting and very expensive, you start telling yourself I might as well be buying the real steel equivalent Of course you can't go out into a field and have an all out war with your buddies either
Do tell us what you wind up with. I have a feeling your going to be finding a local Airsoft group when its all said and done. It can be alot of fun and rewarding.
anything they hit at that FPS thats a hard surface and you had better be wearing some eye protection
It sounds like your after a Gas or Electric powered one, 480, thats quite powerful for airsofty guns, definately not a spring powered one, what is it exactly your interested in? If your planning to use it indoors, thats way too much power, I would like to know your exact intentions here please if you dont mind me asking.
If your wanting to get into Airsoft seriously, I know you stated you wanted something realistic
Check this site out
http://www.planetairsoft.net/
In there you will see some stuff that is nuts
It can get very addicting and very expensive, you start telling yourself I might as well be buying the real steel equivalent
Of course you can't go out into a field and have an all out war with your buddies either Do tell us what you wind up with. I have a feeling your going to be finding a local Airsoft group when its all said and done. It can be alot of fun and rewarding.
jeremywills
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oh wow, totally different thing here sir
Oh wow, I was under the impression you wanted an Airsoft gun utilizing 6mm plastic BB's
Thats a standard CO2 powered .177 pellet gun, I have no idea on that one. I have seen them in the stores and FWIW its probably alright. If your within the law compliance wise, I'd say go for it and give it a whirl. You will not be out that much money if you don't like it.
Oh wow, I was under the impression you wanted an Airsoft gun utilizing 6mm plastic BB's
Thats a standard CO2 powered .177 pellet gun, I have no idea on that one. I have seen them in the stores and FWIW its probably alright. If your within the law compliance wise, I'd say go for it and give it a whirl. You will not be out that much money if you don't like it.
jeremywills
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congrats, have a lot of fun with it, just be safe
jeremywills
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if your trigger happy, you can go through that stuff in a hurry
just a heads up
just a heads up
Woody_in_MN
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I think the CO2's will do around 200 shots.
I know I'm jumping in late here, but Crossman makes a reasonably priced Colt 1911 look alike called the REPEATAIR. It has a rear fully adjustable site. I think I got mine at Walmart for around $40. It takes the 177 ammo. Quite accurate after you adjust the sites.
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I think the CO2's will do around 200 shots.
I know I'm jumping in late here, but Crossman makes a reasonably priced Colt 1911 look alike called the REPEATAIR. It has a rear fully adjustable site. I think I got mine at Walmart for around $40. It takes the 177 ammo. Quite accurate after you adjust the sites.
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coolness
no soda can is safe
no soda can is safe
jeremywills
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just make sure you have a safe distance to whatever is beyond those trees, if your shooting up in the air at them and miss, they still have to go somewhere and coming donward will still have a good momentum going, not a good combo if you hit something or someone beyond the tree
22-rimfire
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I always used the pump-up type airguns (pellet guns) and feel they are safer for children. I hate to have to keep buying CO2 cylinders for children and they will shoot a lot (at first). I would assume that the reduced power on shots is a direct correlation with the amount of CO2 left. Children can learn about firearm safety with air guns quite well and I agree it is the way to go depending on age. The pellet guns are generally powerful enough to kill pest birds and things like squirrels humanely. So, the child learns about the power of a air rifle and is less apt to shoot at his friends or can help to educate their friends.
It won't be long before the child lusts for a 22 rifle. No handguns at first. Let them buy their own handguns when they are old enough. Most kids have the commando attitude that is reinforced all the time with video games, TV, and movies. Hence, the handgun restriction reduces the chance of mischief when Dad will be ultimately responsible for whatever happens.
Introduce the child to hunting too if possible. The cause and effect is a great leaning tool on the lethality of firearms.
It won't be long before the child lusts for a 22 rifle. No handguns at first. Let them buy their own handguns when they are old enough. Most kids have the commando attitude that is reinforced all the time with video games, TV, and movies. Hence, the handgun restriction reduces the chance of mischief when Dad will be ultimately responsible for whatever happens.
Introduce the child to hunting too if possible. The cause and effect is a great leaning tool on the lethality of firearms.
WillBrayJr
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Woody_in_MN said:
Actually the Crossman RepeatAir is a replica of a Smith large frame auto.
If you're shooting fast than the loss of velocity is due to "cool down". If you're only 15 shots before the velocity suddenly drops, then your air pistol is a gas hog.
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