Beretta PX4 vs Walther PPQ M2

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Hi, I'm new on this forum. My name is Marco and I'm italian (sorry for my bad english).

I have to choose my first gun. In Italy I don't have a huge choice so I can choose between Beretta PX4 and Walther PPQ.
I use the gun only to the shooting range so I don't have problem to carry the gun and I don't use it for self defense.
For my purpose is it suitable a striked fire guns or hammer striked one's?
The cost are 650-700 € for Beretta and about 750 € for Walther.
Yes the price for a gun in Italy is huge in comparison to USA price.. :mad::p

Thanks in advance
 
If you have the opportunity, you should shoot, or at least handle, before you buy. Try to find out which points more naturally for you.

Both are respected brands. Other than how well one or the other fits your hand, the only other thing I can think to check is the availability of warranty service if required.
 
Welcome aboard and your English is excellent!

I agree with edwardware. I would buy based on which one feels more comfortable in your hands. Both are reliable and great guns.
 
thanks for your answer bro!

I can't shoot but I can handle it (but probably in soft air version... :banghead:). I have handle the Beretta PX4 and is it confortable, but I can handle a different Walther, probably a P99. Is it similar?

Beretta is hammer fired, while Walther is striked fire... who is the best for my purpose? what is more accurate?
 
Both are going to be as accurate as you can shoot. I can't answer whether the p99 is similar since I have never handled one. As far as striker fired vs. Hammer, there are intense opinions on both sides as to which is better. I own and shoot both regularly and trust both completely.

On a personal level, I prefer hammer fired pistols. In the case of the PX4, it is going to be double action on the first shot and single action on all following shots. Some shooters don't like this transition. On the Walther, it is going to be single action only. It makes for a lighter and smoother trigger pull on the first shot but there is no decocker on it ether so you have to rack the slide to decock.

I prefer guns with manual safeties\decockers but I am probably in the minority. Both have pros and cons.

Between your two options, I would stick with my original advise to buy the gun that feels the best in your hands. It doesn't matter how good a firearm is if you can't comfortably handle it.
 
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Both are going to be as accurate as you can shoot. I can't answer whether the p99 is similar since I have never handled one. As far as striker fired vs. Hammer, there are intense opinions on both sides as to which is better. I own and shoot both regularly and trust both completely.

On a personal level, I prefer hammer fired pistols. In the case of the PX4, it is going to be double action on the first shot and single action on all following shots. Some shooters don't like this transition. On the Walther, it is going to be single action only. It makes for a lighter and smoother trigger pull on the first shot but there is no decocker on it ether so you have to rack the slide to decock.

I prefer guns with manual safeties\decockers but I am probably in the minority. Both have pros and cons.

Between your two options, I would stick with my original advise to buy the gun that feels the best in your hands. It doesn't matter how good a firearm is if you can't comfortably handle it.
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Ok, i accept your advice to try the two guns. A question: on a hammer fired gun if i rack the slide on the first shot, can i shot in the single action the first round too?
 
px4 is an incredible handgun. i bought one. loved it so much i bought another one, because two is one and one is none, and if i had to choose a handgun for shtf it would be, and is, the px4.
 
A question: on a hammer fired gun if i rack the slide on the first shot, can i shot in the single action the first round too?
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Yes as long as you don't decock it (which in the case of the px4 would mean engaging the safety). You would not want to carry it in that condition however. Since you have already said that you won't be carrying it on you, that is not a problem. When you step up to the firing line you can rack the slide and the first shot will be single action.
 
I would recommend the Walther PPQ but in a 5 inch model. You will enjoy it more.
 
Marco78

Welcome aboard! Another consideration you might have is which brand will provide you with the best customer service, parts and accessories availability, and lowest costs. I know nothing about how you go about buying and servicing a gun in Italy but would going with Beretta (for factory support), make more sense logistically than with getting a Walther?
 
I have a Beretta PX-4, and love it. It is heavy for concealed carry, but you said you won't be carrying it.

If the Beretta feels good to you, I would get it. The rotating barrel reduces recoil, and it is fun to shoot.

Plus, you are Italian, so, why not buy from an Italian company? Especially when it's one of the oldest family owned companies in the world.
 
x bannockburn: Probably you are right and Beretta (a Italian brand) have best customer service and better part and accessories availability, but I'm not sure on that. I have to ask to the dealer.

x Turftech1: Yes, I'm italian and, unlike your, we (like Italian people) are attracted to foreign stuff. I know that it is a problem for us...
Beyond this on some forums I have read that Walther PPQ is a "better" pistol in comparison to Px4.. ;)
 
Marco78

Sometimes "better" is in the eye (and hand), of the beholder. Between the two guns I would go with the one that felt the best in my hand, in terms of ergonomics and overall balance. Best if you could try both models at a gun club or range.
 
Yes, you are right. I'll try Beretta Px4, Walther (p99 I think) and a Glock too, to find the guns that fit better in my hand.

;)
 
I have two PX4s (regular & sub-compact) and they are great.

But the PPQ does have a really nice trigger...
 
Welcome to the forum Marco. I've handled a number of Walther polymer pistols, but shot none. I have shot a PX4.

Walther has a good reputation, but they feel cheap to me. That's just my reaction when I pick one up, it isn't based on any data or information I have. I greatly prefer the PX4 to any Walther polymer gun.

Is a Beretta 92 Series gun out of the question?
 
Ok bro, thanks for the information on Walther. In next days I'll go to another armory hoping to find more guns!

Today I visited my buddy and he advice me to buy a sport gun: he have two Tanfoglio like this. Are this type of guns different in comparison to "normal" guns? My buddy tell me that "normal" guns can shoot a good amount of bullet in short time and it aren't build for dynamic shooting... It seem a bull****.. :p
I don't like this type of guns: are too heavy and big and I don't have a good feel with it.
What do you think?
 
I can't speak to the Walther, but the Px4 is an excellent range gun, at least for me. It also comes with 3 back straps so you can choose the one that feels most comfortable to you.
 
Marco78

That Tanfoglio you provided the link to is definitely a race gun, specifically designed and built for competition. Since this is going to be your first gun I would suggest staying with a basic no-frills model to get your feet wet so to speak. Once you've become familiar with it and are reasonably proficient, then you might want to look at something that could be used in more exacting competition shooting.
 
Today I've handled so many different guns: Steyr L9, Glock 17, HS XDM 4.5'', SiG2022, H&K 45 but for me the best in the hand is Glock (and it is cheaper too). I think that in the next days I'll take it!
 
marco78: I've shot over 100 handguns and used to compete at the national level in IPSC. The limited custom is a fine pistol with a very nice trigger. It is not approved for IPSC Production Division. If you wish to compete you will be in Standard Division and need to choose .40 caliber, as 9mm is handicapped in that division. In my experience the chance of broken parts or frames is much higher in the .40 variants of the CZ75 based guns, which the Tanfoglio.
I suggest you look at a Stock II or CZ75 SP01 Shadow in 9x21mm. These are approved for Production Division in 9mm, where they will not be handicapped. The two models are variants of the same design from different factories and are the 'winningest' guns internationally.
Over ten years ago I qualified for my countries IPSC team using a Glock 17, as did 3 out of 4 members. The next year the CZ Shadow came out and nine out of the top ten shooters in that division shot the Shadow. It is a step beyond the Glock 17 and the Tanfoglio Stock II is equivalent.

Of course, if you can afford to buy the Glock 17 and a Tanfoglio / CZ. He who dies with the most toys wins.

The Steyr, HK & XDM I've shot and was not particularly impressed by.
 
Thanks my friend for your long answer. Your advice is awesome. For now I'll take the Glock because is cheap and fit lovely in my hand.
In the future (if I'll interest for this sport) I'll consider a new pistol. ;)
 
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