Berretta 92's-break any parts lately?

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Okay people, reality check here:

Who here has actually had a part in your Beretta break?
Whe here has actually had a part in another gun break?
 
Broken a part in one of my handguns? Offhand, not that I remember.

Seen broken parts in a handgun? Unfair question, as I see broken guns every day at work. The only major brand that I haven't personally seen a busted example of is Kahr, but I'm sure they break, too.

Remember: all guns suck.
 
I have a prototype Elite II, one of the first 8 or 12 made, purchased September 2001.

Grip screws broke on mine earlier this year when I overtightened them.

1st generation extended magazine button early '02 at an IPSC match. The early mag buttons were nubs glued onto the mag releases. Production Elite IIs don't have this problem.

Trigger went out on a cop's Beretta at a class, I suspected the trigger bar spring got dislocated or broke.

Locking block broke on a lady's Italian 92SB (? the one with the heel release) at the range.

Other guns:

Firing pin bushing broke on P7M8.
 
Well um.

I hope this is on every beretta. Perhaps Skunk could take a look at his for me.

By the firing pin, on the left side. In the 'frame' that holds the pin. I have a ... gap. I hadn't noticed this, so it could be factory. A friend pointed it out while we were cleaning guns the other nite. The gap, or cut, looks pretty sharp, like it could be factory, like a drain or gas check.

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Gun is eight years old, with probably 4-5 thousand rounds through it, maybe more. I'm rather embarassed about this, especially if it is a problem.

Otherwise, never broken a part on any of my guns.
 
Why don't somebody ask the armorers at Thunder Ranch or Gunsite or another volume training school what is the #1 broken part they see on guns shot 400-1200 rounds quickly? I do own a 92F but I am not sold on the design for hi volume fire ,and no mine hasn't broke in 2000rnds.:cool:
 
Thanks Tam!! Yeah, that big chunk of ejector sticking off the slide slips right along that gap.


Whew. Me=Relieved. I thought it looked a bit to purposeful to be a weakened area.

So...uh. Nope, no busted Beretta's here!
 
My wife's SS Brigadier has probably 2 or 3 thousand rounds through it, and no breakages. Heck, the recoil spring hasn't even worn out.

On the other hand, my Dan Wesson Pointman Major has had...
- the plunger tube work loose
- the hammer start to follow
- the rear sight roll pin come loose twice
- the replacement solid pin shear off
- the rear sight elevation screw shear in half
- the grip safety stop working
in less than 1500 rounds.
 
Personally, I've had Sigs break in my hands, Kimbers, an HK USP, and a Glock. I've not had a 1911 or a Beretta 92 series break in my hands.

Observed? Charles Daly, Taurus, Walther, 2 Ruger autos... and many others.

My point being... this BS about Beretta parts breaking, is just that. BS. The are one of the better handguns on the market and do not deserve this breakage crap.

You know, I've owned about 2 dozen Audis and not one of them suddenly accelerated without me stomping the gas... yet people STILL hack Audis for it.

Ignorant perpetuations of a stereotypes.
 
The only 92FS part that seemed to break on a regular basis was the locking block, and it has been beefed up to account for it. FWIW, the original 92's averaged more than 30,000 rounds until significant failure in the Army's qual testing. They can't be too prone to breaking.
 
Kamicosmos,

i noticed that same bit on my beretta a while back. i almost freaked out. instead, i went to my favorite gun shop and looked at a new one. same thing. whew!
jade
 
But George, if they were so great, why doesn't SEEL Team 37.5 carry them? Haven't you heard about the slides coming back and raping your firstborn? Or the locking blocks? Or that they gum up with sand, I can't carry at the beach anymore! There is NO 1" accuracy claim at 100 yards and the thing is so big, no one smaller than the Mad Ogre can conceal one!!! :rolleyes:
 
South Africans have been using Berettas for a long time now. Early
80s 92SBs (round trigger guard) are still in the Police inventory..
and a much better gun than the Vektor Z88, a 92F copy.

You don't hear of broken Berettas or Z88s, because they stick with
standard loads like the PMP hardball for duty, and don't try to push
the envelope with using ultra hot loads in their guns.

I carried a 92FS for 3 years. Nary a problem with it. Never shot any
ammo in it but my issued Federal 9BP.

While I have had malfunctions with Glocks, I've never had a jam with
a Beretta or CZ.

Maybe the new plastic parts in the Berettas are giving problems????
 
Don't sneeze on your Beretta or the mucus (sp?) particles will gum up the locking mechanism.

PS if the Beretta gives you blisters on your hands, GET A GLOCK :D (*cough* Chief Bratton *cough*) :neener:
 
Smith & Wesson K, L, and J frame Firing pins: Had two broken, bought three guns with broken firing pins to repair over the years.
Ruger Bisley/Vaquero: Broken Transfer bar (casting flaw)

Whoops, you said autoloaders.

Kel-Tec P11, Slide Release was cracked from the Factory
CZ Duo: Striker cracked
CZ 52: Firing pin broken twice, lesson is don't dry fire your CZ52 and buy a spare firing pin, NOW
 
I had the front blade sight on an MKIII Hi-Power break in two, the bottom part stayed on the sight bevel, the blade flew who knows where. This was during one of my extended shooting sessions in sub-zero weather.

Never had a part break on a couple different Beretta 92 Inox's, but we all know some of the factory original trigger return springs have the tendancy to break and from time to time you hear about the Inox's slide stop shearing off.
 
Ooh... Forgot: I cleaned the front sight off a G23 during a barricade stage at a match some ten years ago... :uhoh: :eek:
 
Shot 3 different unreliable Beretta M9s, but never saw one actually break anything. That was in the Army years ago, and in fairness for all I know the armorers replaced the mag springs with off-brand spaghetti or something.

(The 4th one was an awesome gun.)

I had a Glock 20C break a slide stop. What? A Glock break?!?! :eek:

(Other 3 Glocks never broke anything.)

Had a S&W 610 Classic break the firing pin right off the hammer. Who said revolvers don't break?! :eek: :eek:

(Once that was fixed it worked, well, like a good 'Smith revolver.)

Had a Colt eat an extractor once, entire front end of the hook came of... this being a mid-1990s Delta Elite. Replaced it with an AFTEC and tried real hard to break it again, but failed. :D

(Other 2 Colts were shot to hell and never broke anything.)

Technically, my old Para-Ordnance P14-45 didn't break anything, but only because it never worked, and so never had the chance to. Had a Kel-Tec P32 break before I could even shoot it... hard to beat that.

Bottom line is, it seems like almost anything can work, or not work. You've really got to take guns one at a time.

EDITED TO ADD: Actually, I broke a chunk off a Glock sight, too. :mad:
 
I had the front blade sight on an MKIII Hi-Power break in two, the bottom part stayed on the sight bevel, the blade flew who knows where.
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My HP did exactly the same thing. It's pretty common, although the guy at Browning factory said it was impossible because the sight was milled from a solid piece of stock.

The sight gets stress on the base when forced into a dovetail that is not perfectly straight and eventually, it breaks along the stress line.
 
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