Jackrabbit1957
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Never had that problem either unless the hole in the nipple was partially plugged.
I don't get that with Pyrodex.
...My understanding is that the thick white smoke in some substitutes is from extra additives and without them, the propellant itself could work just as well with much less smoke.
I don’t know… That’s always sounded like a hokey statement to me… because Pyrodex and T7 burn carbon as a source of energy (just like the Holy Black) they have to produce smoke and about half of the original weight of the product is left behind as fouling. I know plenty of shooters who’d forgo all of the smoke and fouling if they could.Early on it was said that Pyrodex was formulated for enough smoke and fouling to be accepted by NMLRA.
It remains the only fake accepted by NRA for BPCR.
Early on it was said that Pyrodex was formulated for enough smoke and fouling to be accepted by NMLRA.
It remains the only fake accepted by NRA for BPCR.
I tried Any interest for smokeless powder cylinder with 209 primers for Ruger Old Army? https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...mers-for-ruger-old-army.873826/#post-11618395 . We needed at least 50 commitments, but, unfortunately, no sufficient interest.If you are willing to forego actual Black Powder and you want reliable ignition of subs, get an inline that uses 209 primers and has a closed breach.
My advice would be to make the effort to source the real thing and order Real Black Powder online if nothing else.
Any interest for smokeless powder cylinder with 209 primers for Ruger Old Army?
If someone wants to shoot C&B revolver indoor, during long and cold winters, in many ranges black powder and smoky substitutes are NO-NO. Also, as far as i know, in number of countries in Europe C&B firearms could be purchased without purchasing permit. This is important for many because if they want to purchase centerfire firearm, especially handguns, that document is needed for every single centerfire gun. On top of that, selection of black powders is frequently limited, substitute powders also, however, smokeless is usually available.No, I would just get a Blackhawk.
Any time you take your firearm in your hands, say a Prayer of Gratitude and finish with "God bless USA, Constitution and Second Amendment"!Westlake Engineering, and maybe others in England, produce battery cup primer fired, loose smokeless, wadcutter revolvers in a repressive kingdom that does not allow its subjects to possess breechloading handguns.
http://www.westlakeengineering.com
doubleh stated: Blackpowder is like hen's teeth in this area and has been for a long time. I just switched to pyrodex and have never had a problem with rifle or pistol. When my son bought a flintlock we tried it with pyrodex RS and used some 4f goex in the pan to ignite the pyrodex and had no trouble. I have no idea what he will do when that can of 4f is gone.
doubleh, have you tried Coonie's over in Hobbs (east of Carlsbad)? I don't know how far it is from you but their phone number is (575)393-0166. I stopped in there many years ago. Nice folks and they have an interesting museum in the back. If not too far, give them a call and see if they can fix you up.
Even just a better quality #11 nipple works. I can't remember the brand I buy. It's hotshot or fire something.
I have switched to musket caps on one.
I haven't used any of the substitutes in probably 25 years; but, when I did, pyrodex lit pretty good. A little slower to ignite than BP but it will go bang. If you have some BP left, use about 10 grains as a primer charge then the rest of your load with pyrodex or whatever you decide to use. A friend of mine uses that technique in his flint guns and swears by it.So I have enough Goex FFg for another ~12 shots and then I will be completely out of black powder. More than enough to get me through the last weekend of muzzleloader season this year unless the Armdillos mount a revenge raid.
My muzzleloader of choice is an old Thompson-Center Big-Boar 58-cal using traditional #11 caps for ignition. I am contemplating ordering some real black powder (Graf and Sons has Schuetzen 2F in stock) but most places have a fairly larger minimum (ie Grafs and Sons wants you to order at least four pounds and there is a huge hazmat fee). I could order some smokeless too pad that out but at the moment I am not in need of any smokeless. No where local carries black powder but most of the common substitutes are available.
If you were going to step away from the real thing in a tradition percussion gun what substitute would you go to?
Pyrodex is only a little potassium perchlorate away from being real black powder.