best bolt action for a scout rifle build?

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The Ishapore 2A 7.62/.308 is a great platform to start a scout build from. I am in process of building one and have run into a money snag but all I really need is the stock set from ATI, Scope and mounts
 
greenlion said:
Maybe someone asked and I missed it, but why would the magazine-fed Ruger Gunsite Scout rifle not be what you are looking for? The older military rifles had stripper clip cutouts because they also had fixed magazines usually holding 5 rounds. The Ruger rifle can hold 4 times that easily.
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I dislike the single column magazine design and found, when I had a chance to try one, that I really disliked having the magazine stick out the way it does. Perhaps if they had used a double stack magazine like the Lee-Enfield's so that it didn't extend so far past the trigger guard I wouldn't be so bothered by it.

The mauser style internal 5 round double stack magazine, reloadable with strippers, gives me sufficient capacity, fast reloading and, most importantly, a rifle that is far easier to carry in hand and balances better when shooting. For me, at least; your milage will, of course, vary.
 
what id like to do.. is have it set up for a detachable magazine... but still have stripper clip guides, so i can put a flush-fitting double stack 5 round on... for a lighter rifle, better balance, and use stripper clips with that.. or put a 10 round on if im looking for more capacity... stripper clips are much lighter to carry, allowing me to carry more ammo, and when they work right theyre about as quick to reload for me as a magazine... about the K31 though, the straight pull bolt seems like a good idea.... but from the trigger, to the bolt i could just as easily grab the bolt handle on my way there with a standard bolt action... then slide back, forward, and drop the bolt on my way back to the trigger, so a straight pull really isnt that much faster

does anyone know the ring size on the 1903 springfield design?... would that be lighter, or the same weight as a standard 98 mauser action?
 
ApacheCoTodd said:
Whelen - is that an M1 Carbine front sight on the 1916? Super cool, that.

This thread kicks ass. The input here has done so much more to get me on board the "Scout Rifle" concept than everything I've read to date - put together!

I'm gettin' jazzed about finally having a direction for 2 project grade rifles I have. On is a VZ-24 action and the other s a Carcano carbine in horrendous shape after their usual Arisaka-grade build.

I think the notion of a stripper in my pocket (not Krystal down at the Bottoms Up) rather than loose rounds or worse yet, a magazine is what has really tipped me in favor of the style of rifle. The Carcano style of clip makes an even stronger argument still.
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Why, yes it is an M1 Carbine front sight. You're very observant!

35W
 
I dislike the single column magazine design and found, when I had a chance to try one, that I really disliked having the magazine stick out the way it does. Perhaps if they had used a double stack magazine like the Lee-Enfield's so that it didn't extend so far past the trigger guard I wouldn't be so bothered by it.

The mauser style internal 5 round double stack magazine, reloadable with strippers, gives me sufficient capacity, fast reloading and, most importantly, a rifle that is far easier to carry in hand and balances better when shooting. For me, at least; your milage will, of course, vary.
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Yeah, I know what you mean. I love my old WW2 rifles, and the stripper clips on the mausers work pretty smoothly. There was a company (Australian maybe?) that was building new Enfields. I can't remember all the details, but..
 
MrDig said:
The Ishapore 2A 7.62/.308 is a great platform to start a scout build from. I am in process of building one and have run into a money snag but all I really need is the stock set from ATI, Scope and mounts
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Yes the Ishapore 2A is a great platform too.................
 
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Probably because Savage's idea of a scout rifle is not the same as my idea of a scout rifle? I prefer a considerably different chambering (7x57 vs .308) and I certainly don't want the weight of a bipod (that I would never use) throwing the balance off on my rifle.

The scout rifle is a very individualized carbine. Everyone does it a little different from everyone else which is, I think, why all of the various factory ones have sold so poorly but people keep making them.
 
i hate when people start a forum looking to make something, and people join in to try to get them to buy something... i guess they just dont understand... any schmuck can go out and buy something.... wheres the fun in that?
 
i have a mosin, and i think it would make a rather poor choice for such a rifle.. first off, theyre not very accurate at all, and second, the bolt handle is way too far forward requiring someone to reach further forward to grab the bolt handle, both reducing the time it takes to cycle, and throws your sights off target more... so im really thinking a springfield 1903 action, or a small-ring 98 action
 
Since you note the 700 in the Op... how about a short action Remington? A barrel started out at something like 40X dimensions would give you monster meat for the forward scope mounting then turn everything else down for weight.

Seems like you could once find the action to accept stripper clips too.
 
i dont use scopes.. if i cant see it with my own eyes im not going to sit there and take my time through a piece of glass until i can.. i practice shooting what i can see, and i can see pretty far
 
A decent scout scope is the best sight yet for fast target aquisition. IMO, if one thinks not, they have never used the right set up or have no idea as to what they are thinking.
 
IMO a red dot sight is faster than a scout scope. I think it is also a little better suited to the ranges that a Scout rifle would be typically used at, and helps keep it light weight. When I get around to doing a scout rifle, it will probably have an Aimpoint on it.
 
a red dot would be better... but i wouldnt want to rely on battery powered devices... maybe a 1X scope with a long eye relief would be better, no batteries needed.. but i still prefer the simplicity, and light weight of a quality iron sight, and if the sights are anything like im used to im pretty fast enough for anything close range... and with the right iron sights and my decent enough eyesight id be well suited for medium range too
 
Something like this makes for some pretty fast target acquisition..........
 
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