All the guns you listed would serve you well. The only one I would add would be to try a SIG 2022 also. Great trigger out of the box. Very reliable, accurate, and can be found at some great prices. A little while back Academy Sports was selling them with nightsights for $399.00. Great buy! I already have 5 SIG P-Series guns so I don't need another. Otherwise I would of jumped on it. 3 different backstrap's can be had for it also to improve the guns fit to your hand.
Best "out of box" polymer 9mm.
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mbruce
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If its good enough for bond, james bond, then its good enough for me
Sebastian the Ibis
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If you don't like the glock grip angle. See if you can find a Steyr. It's basically a glock redesigned with a better grip angle, same designer even. I was at a glock armorers course and the guy next to me had a steyr and everything was the same.
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The Beretta PX4-C, C standing for the "Constant Action" version, which is a pre-cocking light DAO, is the best 9mm polymer pistol on the market.
Totally reliable, same trigger pull every time, hammer fired, no slide mounted safety wings. Having the same trigger pull and no safety on the slide resolves the two most common complaints about the DA/SA Berettas.
Instead you get as perfect reliability the Glocks, far better ergonomics, and greater insurance against light primer strikes, which are far more common to striker fired designs no matter who makes them.
Totally reliable, same trigger pull every time, hammer fired, no slide mounted safety wings. Having the same trigger pull and no safety on the slide resolves the two most common complaints about the DA/SA Berettas.
Instead you get as perfect reliability the Glocks, far better ergonomics, and greater insurance against light primer strikes, which are far more common to striker fired designs no matter who makes them.
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Since these "best" threads are all subjective opinion, I wasn't assuming my choice was for everyone. The PX4 C is a really good hammer fired 9mm in my opinion.
Were there an objective "best" there wouldn't be any 9mm pistol competition would there now?
Heck, in my experience, the Ruger SR9 has an argument as the best striker fired polymer 9mm out there because it is really really nice at a very low price, but that argument is not one I am making because it isn't worth the grief from both the Glock and M&P crowds.
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XDM or Walther P99AS
"and greater insurance against light primer strikes,which are far more common to striker designs no matter who makes them."
this is a myth which is 100% inaccurate and shows a total lack of knowledge and understanding in the specific details of how striker and hammer designs work.
sure,you can have a striker fired pistol giving light primer strikes but you can also have the exact same problem in a hammer fired design.they can both be doing the same thing for different reasons too.
don't take my word for it,go and collect all the spent cases you want for a high quality,properly functioning striker fired pistol and do the same for a hammer fired and then measure all the indents on the spent primers,...and tell me what you get. make sure you bring the correct tool to do so.
i can go into details of how this all works but somehow i get the feeling i'll be wasting my time.i will say it involves the weight of certain parts,the interaction of different parts and the laws of physics.
don't let that heavy hammer falling fool you,..or that long and hard to compress spring in the backstrap either.
this is a myth which is 100% inaccurate and shows a total lack of knowledge and understanding in the specific details of how striker and hammer designs work.
sure,you can have a striker fired pistol giving light primer strikes but you can also have the exact same problem in a hammer fired design.they can both be doing the same thing for different reasons too.
don't take my word for it,go and collect all the spent cases you want for a high quality,properly functioning striker fired pistol and do the same for a hammer fired and then measure all the indents on the spent primers,...and tell me what you get. make sure you bring the correct tool to do so.
i can go into details of how this all works but somehow i get the feeling i'll be wasting my time.i will say it involves the weight of certain parts,the interaction of different parts and the laws of physics.
don't let that heavy hammer falling fool you,..or that long and hard to compress spring in the backstrap either.
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wow6599
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I think there are 3 or 4 that are close to being equal.......so I will vote for the American made S&W M&P9.
Doghandler
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"Toss a coin in the air between the Beretta and the M&P."
Would that be one toss? Are we using No. 9 shot?
Would that be one toss? Are we using No. 9 shot?
Caliper_Mi
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I'll make that argument, even if the "cool" kids won't play with me afterwards.
Love my SR9c. Low bore axis, nice (ok, could be better) trigger with a short reset and a grip shaped for human hands. It is just very nice to shoot. Grip angle is almost identical to a 1911 so points very well for me. The shorter compact model conceals well also.
The safety systems on the SR9 often get badmouthed, but are simple and can be removed easily enough. If you are opposed to magazine disconnects, Rugers design is easily removed in a minute with nothing more than a paper clip. I find I like the tactile loaded chamber indicator for a carry gun, but that could be removed by just drifting a pin out (and would leave a window to visually check for a loaded chamber). The thumb safety could even be removed if you can do a total detail strip, making the SR9 have the same safeties as a Glock. Also, a field strip on the SR9 does not require pulling the trigger, so less chance of a ND.
Skylerbone
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M&P. 3 now with no failures of any kind related to the pistols (wife weak wristed a few shots, first time shooting a centerfire pistol and with reduced loads). Given the choice I would and have chosen it again and again.
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PX-4 in an F or G model . So far 3000+ rounds and not even one single issue EVER . Only semi auto I've ever owned that I can say that about including a Glock 17 . Rotating barrel mechanism soak up what little recoil a nine has , almost like shooting a 22 . Very accurate . I do like My brothers M+P in nine also , a very nice firearm and I shoot it just as accurately as the Beretta . Only thing I don't like with the M+P is the takedown with the goofey tool , or I might own one too .
Amen.
I really don't get why it's not more popular - the P99 is better than every 9mm HK out there and costs about $300-$400 less. Sure it still costs about $50 more than a Glock, but it's also vastly better in just about every way (except availability of accessories.) I guess it's just bad marketing on Walther/S&W's part.
I didn't see the first page, but no one gave the right answer for all-around best.
FNP-9M. Outstanding pistol, even if the decockers look a little cheap. Super simple backstrap system, excellent sights, great grip, has possibly the best capacity-grip size and length ratios I've seen, as far as an untouched service pistol, a very good trigger, and like any worthwhile modern pistol it is reliable as all get out.
FNP-9M. Outstanding pistol, even if the decockers look a little cheap. Super simple backstrap system, excellent sights, great grip, has possibly the best capacity-grip size and length ratios I've seen, as far as an untouched service pistol, a very good trigger, and like any worthwhile modern pistol it is reliable as all get out.
"Pretty amazing how few people actually read that he had already narrowed his choices down to the three models in his post. "
Oh, I read his post, but I read his thread title too - he was looking for the "Best "out of box" polymer 9mm". Just trying to help him out. There are so many great choices out there now.
Oh, I read his post, but I read his thread title too - he was looking for the "Best "out of box" polymer 9mm". Just trying to help him out. There are so many great choices out there now.
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