Brady Campaign submits gun control strategy to Obama transition team

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Well if anyone had any doubts about what the next four years, perhaps eight, might have in store for gun ownership this makes it pretty clear.
I suspect once this document makes the rounds the sale of guns will skyrocket making the surge after the election seem insignificant.
 
If they think there is a run on handguns now, wait until they bring out national microstamping, there will be a purchase stampede like we've never seen.
 
The only thing i saw there that made any sense at all are getting training and keeping guns out of the hands of kids. Niehter will be accomplished by a bunch of chicken squat laws. Any reasonable adult will get some training, namely a ccw, and keep their guns locked up. Idiots won't, and all the laws in the world won't change that.
 
Extend Brady Background Checks to All Gun Sales, Including All Gun Show Sales

We agree with the Obama transition agenda that the gun show loophole should be closed, and with Attorney General nominee Eric Holder that background checks should be required for all gun sales. Our national gun policy should be “no background check, no gun, no excuses.”


This proposed law makes sense. Unfortunately the others don't.
 
Some of the gems I found in my brief read:

"Assault weapons are semiautomatic versions of fully automatic guns designed for military use."

"semiautomatic handguns lack adequate chamber loaded indicators, so untrained users often do not know when a gun is loaded."

"In Florida, for example, more than 4,200 concealed carry licenses were revoked because many licensees committed crimes.(31)"

What is reference 31 you ask?
"(31)See Brady Center and Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence comments filed with the Interior Department on June 30, 2008 and August 8, 2008, available at http://www.bradycampaign.org/xshare/pdf/fedleg/national-park-comments.pdf and http://www.bradycampaign.org/xshare/pdf/fedleg/national-park-supplemental.pdf."

That links to another reference: "Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, Concealed Weapon/Firearm Summary Report, October 1, 1987 – May 31, 2008, available at http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/stats/cw_monthly.html."

That reports that of the 4,439 revocation, only 3,724 where for criminal activity after the permit was issued and only 166 involved a firearm.

What is wrong with these people?
 
Under current law, known or suspected terrorists are not prohibited from buying or possessing firearms, unless they have already committed crimes or are otherwise barred...this legislation would provide the U. S. Attorney General with discretionary authority to block a gun sale to a known or suspected terrorist where the AG reasonably believes that the person may use a firearm or explosives in connection with terrorism.
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So much for innocent until proven guilty.

"In Florida, for example, more than 4,200 concealed carry licenses were revoked because many licensees committed crimes.(31)
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Mine was revoked because a former g/f filed a domestic violence injunction against me. She then called and offered to drop it for $10K. I refused to pay, and it took me a few months to clear my name and get my license reinstated. I bet I am one of those 4,200.
 
Not that we would or should but, if we gave in to all those items, would they have nothing more they want from us?

I doubt it.

Its not about the children, its about control.
 
I like how they give no argument or evidence yet they act as though their word is good enough. Just believe that what they say is the way to go.
 
I agree with Timradcliffe345 - The only proposal that makes any sense to me is closing the gun show loopholes. Sorry guys, if this offends you, but it's the criminals that cause all the problems with guns - we all agree that law abiding citizens aren't the problem. So what is wrong with doing everything we can to make sure convicted felons (and the mentally insane) can't buy guns? I"m all for background checks. Everything else in this proposal - not so much.
 
Look at the percentage of felons that bought their guns at gun shows...
Then tell me it makes sense.
It would also stop FTF sales of firearms.


Jim
 
Look at the percentage of felons that bought their guns at gun shows...
Then tell me it makes sense.
It would also stop FTF sales of firearms.
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The 'gunshow loop hole' refers to ALL firearm transactions. Why should you be able to buy a gun without a background check from bubba, but need a NICS check at Gander Mtn? Do you have anything to hide dear Jim?


What they should do is REQUIRE BY LAW that all potential firearm purchasers go through the NICS check. That way Bubba would have to call up the feds and make sure you're not a felon before he sells you the gun. This service should be FREE and very expedient. The seller logs the verification number and the sale can be made. That way the gun will not end up in the hands of a convicted criminal or anyone else who is not competent to possess a firearm. This law makes sense. Not all laws do.
 
Actually, after thinking more about it, I'm OK with requiring some sort of safety course for new handgun purchasers. Come on, admit it - guns are at least as dangerous as cars. Times have changed - it used to be that your dad would take you out and show you how to shoot. Nowadays, any 21 year old can decide to get a handgun, and walk into a gun shop and buy one, without having had any kind of instruction on gun safety or on his state's gun laws. I've seen noobs handle pistols, and it scared the crap out of me. Unless they are taught differently, their fingers go straight for the trigger. But make the instruction reasonable - you can teach everything someone needs to know in 4 hours. Doesn't have to be a whole weekend. And make it affordable - $25, max. And make anyone who has a valid CCW from any state exempt - they've already had their training. I used to be a noob, and benefitted greatly from my CCW class.

There are what the Brady Bunch calls "common sense gun laws," and then there are truly common sense gun laws.
 
The only proposal that makes any sense to me is closing the gun show loopholes.
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No it does not, because the federal government has no authority to regulate intrastate commerce. The Constitution specifically enumerates power to regulate interstate commerce, while states reserve sole regulatory power over intrastate commerce.

To me, its more of a states rights issue than anything else.
 
Hey Timrad, less than 1% of "crime guns" were obtained at gun show's. www.gunfacts.info. Look under the section on "regulating gun show's". As usual, this is another inneffective, feel good law.
 
That argument was shot down long ago. If you buy a gun in Arizona that was manufactured in Connecticut, that is considered interstate commerce. Even if you buy a gun in Connecticut that was manufactured in Connecticut, the courts have said that the gun was INTENDED for interstate commerce - hence they are able to be regulated.
 
I don't think this proposal makes any sense at all! Why not just lock up the deadly criminals and keep them there and then we wouldn't have to have background checks at all. The Brady bunch if given an inch will take a mile. Anyone conceeding with the Brady Campaign on any issue ought to just give their guns to them and get out of the fight.
 
C'mon guys, the so called "gun show loop hole etc." are just a couple more clicks of the rachet. They just want to nibble the edge until they all are gone.
 
What? Florida has led the violent crime rate since concealed carry was enacted? What the hell are they talking about? The footnote doesn't even say anything about the source.
 
Actually, after thinking more about it, I'm OK with requiring some sort of safety course for new handgun purchasers.
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I don't know about that, but I am close to thinking that when you qualify for a CCW, you should be able to show a much greater proficiency with a firearm than what they require. The only reason I say this is because I saw some really scary stuff in my class.:what:
 
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