dirt_j00
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Logos: you appear to support making open carry illegal. Is this true?
Also, please respond to BossHaug's post.
Also, please respond to BossHaug's post.
You obviously don't have a clue what common sense means to me
Here in Show Low, Arizona, I see people open carrying all the time. They carry in restaurants, grocery stores, the car wash, Wal-Mart (gosh!). Nobody cares. Nobody calls the police. I CCW all the time, and sometimes when I carry my 1911 outside the belt covered with a shirt, it is visible. Nobody cares about that either. We don't call the police everytime we see a citizen going about his legal business. When I visit the valley (Phoenix metropoliton area), I see OC there too. No big deal.
That's because you live in your own world.You obviously don't have a clue what common sense means to me.
More internet forum talk. I hear it all the time. Doesn't mean much to me.
I don't see ANYBODY open carryin
Logos: you appear to support making open carry illegal. Is this true?
Also, please respond to BossHaug's post.
How many times do you call the cops if you see a plainclothes narcotics officer?
What do you mean by this? Folks like you calling the cops on people who have done nothing illegal?And if open carry becomes a problem...
So if you don't see it, it must not exist.
Yet you are perfectly happy to make claims that IF you DO open carry, that all kinds of bad things will happen. You don't see that either, but you believe it.
You don't find any contradiction there?
Yeah, nothing like police officers carrying sidearms to rile up the populace... Where do you live again?our local non-uniformed narcotics officers are bright enough not to openly show their guns and rile up the populace.
so you support making open carry illegal. What is your basis for this? Has there been a rash of OCers commiting crimes?
If Logos thinks I'm a liar, he is welcome to his opinion of me, and I am entitled to my own opinion of him.
What are you calling a problem?
omebody here said it's already illegal in Texas. Why? I bet they figure it would cause problems.
Skipped a few history classes eh?Explain how the Texas law is racist, please.
Explain how the Texas law is racist, please.
Racist arms laws predate the establishment of the United States. Starting in 1751, the French Black Code required Louisiana colonists to stop any blacks, and if necessary, beat "any black carrying any potential weapon, such as a cane." If a black refused to stop on demand, and was on horseback, the colonist was authorized to "shoot to kill.
One especially absurd example, and one that includes strong evidence of the racist intentions behind gun control laws, is Texas.
In Cockrum v. State (1859), the Texas Supreme Court had recognized that there was a right to carry defensive arms, and that this right was protected under both the Second Amendment, and section 13 of the Texas Bill of Rights. The outer limit of the state's authority (in this case, attempting to discourage the carrying of Bowie knives), was that it could provide an enhanced penalty for manslaughters committed with Bowie knives. [30] Yet, by 1872, the Texas Supreme Court denied that there was any right to carry any weapon for self-defense under either the state or federal constitutions -- and made no attempt to explain or justify why the Cockrum decision was no longer valid.
The law under consideration has been attacked upon the ground that it was contrary to public policy, and deprived the people of the necessary means of self- defense; that it was an innovation upon the customs and habits of the people, to which they would not peaceably submit... We will not say to what extent the early customs and habits of the people of this state should be respected and accommodated, where they may come in conflict with the ideas of intelligent and well-meaning legislators. A portion of our system of laws, as well as our public morality, is derived from a people the most peculiar perhaps of any other in the history and derivation of its own system. Spain, at different periods of the world, was dominated over by the Carthagenians, the Romans, the Vandals, the Snovi, the Allani, the Visigoths, and Arabs; and to this day there are found in the Spanish codes traces of the laws and customs of each of these nations blended together in a system by no means to be compared with the sound philosophy and pure morality of the common law.
I know something of the history of this legislation. The original Act of 1893 was passed when there was a great influx of negro laborers in this State drawn here for the purpose of working in turpentine and lumber camps. The same condition existed when the Act was amended in 1901 and the Act was passed for the purpose of disarming the negro laborers and to thereby reduce the unlawful homicides that were prevalent in turpentine and saw-mill camps and to give the white citizens in sparsely settled areas a better feeling of security. The statute was never intended to be applied to the white population and in practice has never been so applied.