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A school in my area was on lock down yesterday because, as the news reports, "A bullet was found in a classroom." They then go on to report that nothing else was found and there was no threat. You can read the story here: http://www.timesnews.net/article/9073709/dobyns-bennett-locked-down
Now I know that anytime the words "gun" and "school" are used in the same sentence that the news media tries to induce panic. But why would they lock a school down over a small piece of lead with a copper jacket? I can only assume that they are talking about loaded ammo or a "live round." Makes me think about how ignorant people talk about those evil "big clips." Why is it that no one in the news media cares about getting the term right? Now maybe they did only find a single projectile and it cause a panic but since there is no picture of someone holding a 95 grain hollow point bullet I assume they found something more like a live 22lr round. Probably a kid stuck his hand in his jacket pocket and realized that he had accidentally left a round in his pocket from his last hunting or shooting range trip and rather than face expulsion for bringing a weapon to school he got rid of it quietly. Now I realize I am speculating here as it could just as easily be a "get out of school early" scheme of some kid or a genuine threat thwarted.

Now maybe I am being to harsh on the incompetent news media, but I am really sick of the hourly news reports being nothing more than attempts to cause uniformed people to panic.
 
With all of the school shootings these days, locking the school down over a bullet or cartridge is not all that surprising.
 
Locking a school because of this is ridiculous. Even if it was a live round it's not a big deal. I've taken live ammo for projects in school. Of course I don't live in the US.
 
I wish school administrators would use some sense in this sort of situation.
 
Kingsport has had knife, hammer and baseball bat murders in recent years. I'll bet there are knives in the cafeteria, hammers in the shop classes and baseball bats in the athletic house. But I wonder if someone found one abandoned in a classroom, there would be an equal panic?

Oh well. Remember students: if you have gone hunting or targetshooting over the weekend, police your pockets and trouser cuffs before going to school on Monday.

BTW, have you ever policed a construction area? I have found up to a half dozen rimfire power loads dropped and forgotten. Which makes me wonder about the nature of that "bullet".
 
A friend of mine sent our high school on lockdown once because a paintball fell out of his backpack. The same backpack he packed gear in for a tournament over the weekend. An actual round of ammo would've had SWAT there .
 
Carl N. Brown said:
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BTW, have you ever policed a construction area? I have found up to a half dozen rimfire power loads dropped and forgotten. Which makes me wonder about the nature of that "bullet".
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There's probably another explanation for finding expended rim fires at a construction site

There are various construction tools that use 22 blank cartridges to power drive a bolt or nail through both wooden floor studs and a concrete pad.

Here's one designed for a homeowner, but they make bigger commercial models that are more frequently used in home building:

Ramset-hammer

Cheers
 
ahh! a bullet! run for your lives! smalls, that is insane they would put a school on lock down over a paint ball?! wow! a paint ball.
 
With all of the school shootings these days,
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That there's really funny, unless by some strange twisted notion it's considered factual. . .

It's about 21 children a year over the last 15 years. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2007/09/us-school-shoot/

Far from epidemic. 10 times as many die at the hands of a drunk driver. http://www.madd.org/statistics/

But, nobody really does anything about them, right? Maybe we should ban alcohol, after all, if it saves the life of one child, right?

Over 390 kids from age 0-14 die by drowning. http://www.cpsc.gov/en/Newsroom/New...ools-and-Spas-Still-A-Leading-Cause-of-Death/

So, stop selling home swimming pools and waders. Close down the public pools, and fence off all streams, rivers, lakes, and the ocean.

If it saves the life of one child it should be worth it.

Be very careful repeating the lies we hear on the news, because they are. Kids being shot in school isn't an epidemic, and even the authorities say so. It's a political agenda that beats that drum, in defiance of common sense and the reality of how kids are actually being killed.

We lost nearly 10 X the number of teens annually to drunk driving than in combat the last ten years. A law was broken every time a teen got drunk, and then they killed each other in an out of control exercise of a motor vehicle. Where are the charges of homicide? Nothing happens.

But we need to do something about all them guns killing kids, 'cause its an epidemic!
 
tomrkba said:
I wish school administrators would use some sense in this sort of situation.
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Me, too ... but ...

... in many cases, school administrators are limited in how they may respond without potentially damaging their careers.

My sister was a Guidance Counselor for several decades at a local (rural area, btw) middle school. She would come by here quite often after school to visit (and blow off steam) ... and her stories would repeatedly blow my mind relative to how they were required to respond to assorted situations.

Many of the required Official Responses started by discarding logic & common sense.

As a result, whenever they first became aware of a potential "situation" they would try to quickly determine What really happened? and Who knows about it.

With that info, if it was something silly that could possibly spiral out of control and demand an Official Response, they would work hard to assure that certain trip wires were not touched.
 
Let's examine the situation for a moment before jerking our knees our of joint.

If you're a teacher or administrator and you find a live round in the classroom you're going to need to be concerned that one of your students might have brought a weapon in with them and that they might represent a threat to themselves or another student or faculty. You call in the LEOs with their search dog and hold the students in place until the classrooms are searched with students that have been in that classroom that day so you can exclude the chance that this is innocent instead of potentially dangerous.

Years ago you wouldn't be as concerned because your little darling would never think about coming to school to shoot a teacher or fellow student, BUT because today you have to wonder if you're going to find yourself looking down the barrel of a gun because some kid is trying to copy some other kid's headline grabbing murder you better take the precaution of verifying the dropped round is innocent.
 
I gave an expanded 158gr Speer Gold Dot to my nephew to take to school for show and tell. Never heard anything back about a lock down. A couple years later my niece used the same bullet in a middle school science report. Again no lock down.
 
Stuff like this.... :banghead:

Carl N. Brown said:
Kingsport has had knife, hammer and baseball bat murders in recent years. I'll bet there are knives in the cafeteria, hammers in the shop classes and baseball bats in the athletic house. But I wonder if someone found one abandoned in a classroom, there would be an equal panic?
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Please, cite the last mass hammering/batting/stabbing at a school in the US that resulted in 5 or more deaths.

Do I need to list the shootings, or can you figure those out on your own?

Guns do more damage/death more quickly with less expertise/ability than any other item available to civilians.

Guns are different, pretending like they are not simply denies reality.
 
When I was in the 2nd or 3rd grade, (about 20 years ago) I was made to turn my G.I. Joe t-shirt inside out because it had an animated picture of a fictional soldier, holding a fictional gun. My parents were stunned when they got a call from my school informing them that the school had a zero tolerance weapons policy..... Its a T-shirt, not a weapon! It looked similar to this one : http://www.honcho-sfx.com/images/freeze-mens-g-i-joe-t-shirt-blue-p2358-6846_image.jpg

Bottom line, the world we live in sucks and it wont get better. This political/social system is much like a broken tool. If a blacksmith cannot properly repair a tool, it must be reforged and remade.:cool:

Public Schools: Let the wussification of American children commence!
 
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The people who make these decisions have very little common sense. The news media makes the situation even worse because the people running the news media by and large dislike firearms and knives.
 
Entertaining..... If this had happened at my school, when I was a student.. I would have learned a neat little lesson !!

When I don't have my homework done or I'm not ready for the test...... Simply bring in a round of ammo and set it out when no one else is looking. I bet it would get me out of a taking a test !! :rolleyes:
 
Pizzapinochle said:
Stuff like this.... :banghead:



Please, cite the last mass hammering/batting/stabbing at a school in the US that resulted in 5 or more deaths.

Do I need to list the shootings, or can you figure those out on your own?

Guns do more damage/death more quickly with less expertise/ability than any other item available to civilians.

Guns are different, pretending like they are not simply denies reality.
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Why put the number 5 down as a qualifier? Do the first 5 not count?

It's not about safety, it's about teaching children that "guns are Evil". So Evil, that if ANYTHING associated with guns comes near, you must be protected by locking you in somewhere so that the Evil Thing cannot harm you! They are so terrible, just the act of nibbling your Pop Tart into the shape of the Evil Thing will bring death and destruction down on everyone around you, so you must be removed from polite society.

In other words, brain wash the children into believing guns are evil, in a generation or two, the fight is over. The Constitution looses, the people are more easily subjugated.

It's a long fight, the other side will never give up, they may fall back, switch tactics, but never give up.

So many things they do in schools today stinks of conditioning as opposed to learning.

Sorry, starting to rant....
 
i don't really want to start an argument but i know that i can cause an extreme amount of damage with a baseball bat or hammer in short order and even more so with a knife. it's not so much a case of "how much how fast" in regards to damage but teaching children that all things related to firearms are bad.
 
I know this won't be popular but here goes anyway. I am a school administrator, have been one for 15 years, another 15 as a classroom teacher. I remember the days of being able to bring a gun to school and not have to worry about it. I currently work in a private christian school but have worked in public schools prior to this.

If someone finds an unfired cartridge laying around there is no way you have any idea what else goes along with it. You have hundreds if not thousands of kids at risk IF there is an actual firearm to go along with the unspent round? Sure it is easy to sit back on the internet and say, boy that was dumb and that idiot administrator should get his head examined. Well, he may be right or he may be wrong but he sure as heck better not take chances with the lives of your and other people's children. There is usually a protocol but no specific plan for everything that comes up. However, do you want to be the administrator who took the chance there wasn't more ammo and a firearm to go with it? That is just plain insane thinking.

Sure, afterwards you might think the administrator was overreacting but he doesn't know that at the time. You lock the school down and determine if there is any potential for problems and then you go back to normal. You can sleep with yourself knowing you did everything to mitigate a possible problem that you really don't know exists or not.
 
Seriously? I remember my high school physics teacher bringing in some bullets to show us and to run some experiments with. He brought in a bunch of lead and jacketed 9mm, 40, 45, and 38's, and we have a plenty of fun measuring each one's drop time (the experiment had something to do with gravity). And this was in 2007-2008.
 
Entertaining..... If this had happened at my school, when I was a student.. I would have learned a neat little lesson !!

When I don't have my homework done or I'm not ready for the test...... Simply bring in a round of ammo and set it out when no one else is looking. I bet it would get me out of a taking a test !!
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This. We found all kinds of creative ways of avoiding tests, dropping a round somewhere would have been WAY easier!
 
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