Bushmaster Carbon-15 M4 ?
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natedog
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Looks pretty dang cool. Interchangable with regular AR uppers, right? Handguards and buttstocks, too, right?
If you really wanted "superlight', a 16" Superlight profile barrel with fluting and an ACE stock would complete the picture nicely. I'm guessing that this rifle has a thick barrel under the handguards.
If you really wanted "superlight', a 16" Superlight profile barrel with fluting and an ACE stock would complete the picture nicely. I'm guessing that this rifle has a thick barrel under the handguards.
SapperLeader
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I thought the bushmaster carbon 15 models weighed closer to 4 pounds than 6? This has a unloaded weight of 6 pounds, and a loaded weight of 7. Granted, its still lighter, but I would love a ar rifle that weighed under 5 pounds fully loaded.
thumbtack
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I think it is pretty.
natedog
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Yep, this thing definetly has a baseball bat barrel under the handguards, as the real M-4 (with aluminum recievers) weighs 5.8 pounds. This carbon-recievered rifle has a weight of 5.95 pounds. I'm sick of bull barrels on what should be a lightweight carbine.
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SapperLeader,
The Carbon 15 M4 rifle seems to be an AR15 with a carbon lower and upper receiver as opposed to the regular Carbon 15, which is more of a lightweight rifle with an AR15 operating system. Every aspect of the Carbon 15 was designed to be light (carbon fiber stock, recoil tube and a low profile fluted barrel) and negated the use of standard AR15 parts.
Natedog,
I believe that the rifle uses a true M4 profile barrel and not a heavy barrel. If you compare the weights of the C15M4 and the M4ogary that Bushmaster makes, the weight difference is .64 lbs different. This is ball park for the “3/4 of a pound lighter†claim they make. Also Bushmaster doesn’t make a barrel with an M4 profile in front of the gas block and heavy barrel under the hand guards. If they put their Superlight barrel on the rifle though they would really be cooking with gas.
Victor
The Carbon 15 M4 rifle seems to be an AR15 with a carbon lower and upper receiver as opposed to the regular Carbon 15, which is more of a lightweight rifle with an AR15 operating system. Every aspect of the Carbon 15 was designed to be light (carbon fiber stock, recoil tube and a low profile fluted barrel) and negated the use of standard AR15 parts.
Natedog,
I believe that the rifle uses a true M4 profile barrel and not a heavy barrel. If you compare the weights of the C15M4 and the M4ogary that Bushmaster makes, the weight difference is .64 lbs different. This is ball park for the “3/4 of a pound lighter†claim they make. Also Bushmaster doesn’t make a barrel with an M4 profile in front of the gas block and heavy barrel under the hand guards. If they put their Superlight barrel on the rifle though they would really be cooking with gas.
Victor
natedog
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http://www.colt.com/law/lecarbine.asp....most importanty
LE6920: Barrel length: 16.1 in (41 cm), Length: 30.4in/34.6in (77cm/88cm), Weight: 5.95 lb (2.67 kg)
LE6921: Barrel length: 14.5 in (37 cm), Length: 29.8in/33.0in (76cm/84cm), Weight: 5.65 lb (2.56 kg)
http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/weapons/pcwa2x14m4my.asp
Caliber .223 Rem. (5.56)
Mag Capacity Shipped with 10 Round
Overall Length 34.75 inches
Barrel Length 16" total w. Mini Y Comp
Rifling R.H. twist; 1 turn in 9"
Weight w/o Magazine 6.59 Lbs.
Mode of Operation Gas Operated Semi-Automatic
The LE6920 is a semi-only M-4 with a 16.1" barrel and flash hider...basically exactly what we'll be able to own this September. Closest legal thing (without NFA paperwork) to an M-4 that you can get.
Maybe the scales were just different or something? I don't think that the pin to fix the stock in place and then muzzle brake could add nearly a pound more in weight to the Bushmaster model.
LE6920: Barrel length: 16.1 in (41 cm), Length: 30.4in/34.6in (77cm/88cm), Weight: 5.95 lb (2.67 kg)
LE6921: Barrel length: 14.5 in (37 cm), Length: 29.8in/33.0in (76cm/84cm), Weight: 5.65 lb (2.56 kg)
http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/weapons/pcwa2x14m4my.asp
Caliber .223 Rem. (5.56)
Mag Capacity Shipped with 10 Round
Overall Length 34.75 inches
Barrel Length 16" total w. Mini Y Comp
Rifling R.H. twist; 1 turn in 9"
Weight w/o Magazine 6.59 Lbs.
Mode of Operation Gas Operated Semi-Automatic
The LE6920 is a semi-only M-4 with a 16.1" barrel and flash hider...basically exactly what we'll be able to own this September. Closest legal thing (without NFA paperwork) to an M-4 that you can get.
Maybe the scales were just different or something? I don't think that the pin to fix the stock in place and then muzzle brake could add nearly a pound more in weight to the Bushmaster model.
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Natedog,
Bushmaster uses a full length A2 buffer tube and buffer on their "fixed telestock." It's not a true pinned telestock and would account for the extra weight.
http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/buttstocks/1005-087-8988pek.asp
Victor
Bushmaster uses a full length A2 buffer tube and buffer on their "fixed telestock." It's not a true pinned telestock and would account for the extra weight.
http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/buttstocks/1005-087-8988pek.asp
Victor
natedog
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Ah I see. Can you replace it with a carbine length buffer/tube?
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Natedog,
You might be able to do that, but I'm not sure.
If you have that in mind it would probably just be a better idea to get the real thing and then pin it open (before installation of course). Come September you could then unpin it.
Mike
P.S. As a gee whiz side note I have had the chance to handle a Colt LE6920. I was at a gun shop one day and there were more then ten of them in a back room waiting to be picked up. It’s a hot little number. Nothing unique about it, but it's just not often that you see one.
You might be able to do that, but I'm not sure.
If you have that in mind it would probably just be a better idea to get the real thing and then pin it open (before installation of course). Come September you could then unpin it.
Mike
P.S. As a gee whiz side note I have had the chance to handle a Colt LE6920. I was at a gun shop one day and there were more then ten of them in a back room waiting to be picked up. It’s a hot little number. Nothing unique about it, but it's just not often that you see one.
natedog
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A rail on the top (w/ the carry handle removed) and a rail on the bottom (to mount a foregrip...I've heard that the foreward grip gets very hot during firing!) would be very sweet!
I know there's a custom gunsmith company that does this kind of work, can't think of the name though...
I know there's a custom gunsmith company that does this kind of work, can't think of the name though...
WhoKnowsWho
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When I first picked up a Carbon 15 framed Bushmaster, I through it over my head and hit a person looking at a Hi-Point... 
Freakin cool I think. Hopefully they work good too.
Freakin cool I think. Hopefully they work good too.
DMK
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I wonder why they didn't use their Superlight barrel on this?
http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/barrel-assemblies/abbl-16sla.asp
http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/barrel-assemblies/abbl-16sla.asp
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