BUYING 10mm Ammo

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Yeah, shipping is often a killer. And, therefore, a bit hidden. Ammo is heavy, and "blows up" so it can cost a bit.

I routinely use the ammoseek stuff, go to 3-4 different stores with what I want, get far enough to get a totally total total amount, THEN compare prices.
 
Yeah, shipping is often a killer. And, therefore, a bit hidden. Ammo is heavy, and "blows up" so it can cost a bit.

I routinely use the ammoseek stuff, go to 3-4 different stores with what I want, get far enough to get a totally total total amount, THEN compare prices.
Right. But you have to be willing to buy at least 500 rounds to have any hope of getting a decent price.

I find that True Shot Gun Club, when it does charge for shipping, has some peculiar “nodes”, amounts that ship for an unusually low cost. For a while you could have 3 cases of shotgun shells shipped much more cheaply per case than 4. Odd. There are all kinds of tricks to buying cheap ammo online.
 
True. I think a lot of the shipping is due to the shippers. I ship a decent bit of stuff and rates are largely inscrutable nonsense.

Bulk rates is one reason I tried to simplify by calibers recently. Easier to justify 1000 round orders when I shoot it in several guns.

"Tried" though. Didn't all succeed!
 
Are there even any mass produced 10mm range loads (not by BB or Underwood) worth the 10mm name?

All I see are 180 grains at around 1100 FPS, which is pretty sad.

That said, SGAMMO.com seems to have some decent prices for a number of range blaster brands. Seems to mostly be .32-.40/round on average. I use them to order my carry ammo and am pretty happy with their prices and shipping.
 
Are there even any mass produced 10mm range loads (not by BB or Underwood) worth the 10mm name?

All I see are 180 grains at around 1100 FPS, which is pretty sad.

That said, SGAMMO.com seems to have some decent prices for a number of range blaster brands. Seems to mostly be .32-.40/round on average. I use them to order my carry ammo and am pretty happy with their prices and shipping.
Sig FMJs are the only ones I know of that are close to full power.

I could see buying the S&B stuff just to get the brass. But I just buy from Starline now.
 
Aren’t soft shooting 10 mm FMJs actually valued for range use? Folks with 357 Mag revolvers often like to shoot 38 Sp. at the range. Isn’t a lightly loaded 10 mm round much the same thing? As long as you can get your JHP SD ammo loaded hot, what would be wrong with the FMJ versions being easier to handle?
 
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Aren’t soft shooting 10 mm FMJs actually valued for range use? Folks with 357 Mag revolvers often like to shoot 38 Sp. at the range. Isn’t a loaded 10 mm round much the same thing? As long as you can get your JHP SD ammo loaded hot, what would be wrong with the FMJ versions being easier to handle?

I can only speak for myself, but my 10mm is a 1911 and if I'm shooting weak 10mm I might as well be shooting my much cheaper .45 ACP.

Plus the extra pop of a good full house load handles quite differently than the anemic range loads I started out with. My 10mm is primarily for fun target shooting (and my handloads are more accurate in my gun than range ammo) or hunting/woods work, which I prefer the real stuff as practice.

Plus my handloads cost about the same, .30-.50 depending on if I'm reusing brass, as the range ammo I've seen.

Haven't seen that SIG stuff yet, looks maybe promising though.
 
I can only speak for myself, but my 10mm is a 1911 and if I'm shooting weak 10mm I might as well be shooting my much cheaper .45 ACP.

Plus the extra pop of a good full house load handles quite differently than the anemic range loads I started out with. My 10mm is primarily for fun target shooting (and my handloads are more accurate in my gun than range ammo) or hunting/woods work, which I prefer the real stuff as practice.

Plus my handloads cost about the same, .30-.50 depending on if I'm reusing brass, as the range ammo I've seen.

Haven't seen that SIG stuff yet, looks maybe promising though.
I keep about 500 rds of the sig 10mm around, it is good. I dont currently load 10mm but have thought about it, most of my cases get bulged from the glock chamber so i do save them but im not too confident in reloading them after being bulged. I usually just get the sig ammo though, about .55 per round, and usually only shoot 50-100 per month. I do most of my range blasting with a 357 mag or 45 colt/454 casull because i can load them cheap and the brass last a while.
 
Aren’t soft shooting 10 mm FMJs actually valued for range use? Folks with 357 Mag revolvers often like to shoot 38 Sp. at the range. Isn’t a lightly loaded 10 mm round much the same thing? As long as you can get your JHP SD ammo loaded hot, what would be wrong with the FMJ versions being easier to handle?
If that's what a person enjoys, that's fine. I enjoy 38's out of my 357's, as you know. I load 38 sp +p though. And if someone wants to shoot light 10mm ammo, and just likes having the capability of shooting really hot stuff if they so desire, there's nothing wrong with that.

The only down side is that a lot of 10mm handguns are intentionally built heavy to subdue the 10mm recoil. Some folks may not appreciate a gun heavier than need be for light loads. Then again some may really like it as recoil would be diminished.

I do believe firmly that a person should practice with the full power loads they are going to carry on a relatively consistent basis. I like to load mine so they mimic the real deal for SD. But fun loads are exactly that, fun.
 
If that's what a person enjoys, that's fine. I enjoy 38's out of my 357's, as you know. I load 38 sp +p though. And if someone wants to shoot light 10mm ammo, and just likes having the capability of shooting really hot stuff if they so desire, there's nothing wrong with that.

The only down side is that a lot of 10mm handguns are intentionally built heavy to subdue the 10mm recoil. Some folks may not appreciate a gun heavier than need be for light loads. Then again some may really like it as recoil would be diminished.

I do believe firmly that a person should practice with the full power loads they are going to carry on a relatively consistent basis. I like to load mine so they mimic the real deal for SD. But fun loads are exactly that, fun.
Right on.
 
Has anybody mentioned Freedommunitions.com ? I’ve bought their remanufactired and new and it’s usually decent stuff.
 
Has anybody mentioned Freedommunitions.com ? I’ve bought their remanufactired and new and it’s usually decent stuff.
Yes , but their entire pricing structure has changed since they declared bankruptcy and not for the cheaper. No more deeply discounted prices. No more deeply discounted or even free shipping. Those were what made them attractive in the past. Good ammo however.

The best current plan by far is www.ammoseek.com with research performed on the cheaper entries re: shipping cost.
 
The best factory 10mm range ammo I've tried was PPU (Prvi Partizan). Not hot but good in accuracy and function. The most unsatisfactory has been Bitterroot....but I am not slamming the company -some loads just don't match some guns. It was potent stuff in new starline brass with plated bullets. I like plated bullets fine and both my 10s shoot them well but the Bitterroot loading simply was horrible in my Glock 20-10inch+ groups at 20 yards. In the Witness it was okay but not stellar.
 
My 40 Smith & Wesson loads run about 100 ft./s faster for the same bullet weight as most factory 10 mm loads. And said loads are a couple of grains below max per reloading manual. Why bother with a 10 mm for practice? I've always thought it ironic that many refer to Smith and Wesson 40 as short and week. The truth is it is a very powerful round when loaded to the high-end of the scale. Like the 9 mm the case is full of powder and very efficient. Unlike the 45 ACP and 10 mm which are roomier cases. Although large bullet do fill 10 mm case nicely.
Apologize to the op for continued the /The not answering his question.
 
My 40 Smith & Wesson loads run about 100 ft./s faster for the same bullet weight as most factory 10 mm loads. And said loads are a couple of grains below max per reloading manual. Why bother with a 10 mm for practice? I've always thought it ironic that many refer to Smith and Wesson 40 as short and week. The truth is it is a very powerful round when loaded to the high-end of the scale.

I'm not sure I understand your post clearly.

I agree, most factory 10mm ammo is pretty poor when considering the potency of upper level 10mm loadings, and I agree that 40 S&W is a fine cartridge. It does the job well. Calling it short and week is silly. It may be short, but week is not accurate. Chest thumpers are loud though.

If a person only wants to shoot loads equivalent to a 40 S&W, a 10mm is kind of an unnecessary investment, and will require a 45 acp sized frame. But it's kind of like someone who wants a 357 but really only intends to shoot 38 special, or 44 mag/44spl. They like the option of magnum velocity, even if they rarely use it. I also suspect some folks don't care for the recoil of full power loads, but realize it after they get a 10mm. Rental ranges are not everywhere, and even when they are, they may not have a 10mm, or the 10mm the shooter wants to try. A poor fitting gun/shooter combo can give a very poor impression of 10mm or really any cartridge if the gun doesn't suite the shooter.

Some just want fun soft shooting loads and enjoy having a gun that is more than capable of outlasting the shooter's life span due to being overbuilt for their purposes.

I think you are looking at it as "If you want to shoot 40 S&W, just get a 40 S&W." While some folks see it as "I want to be able to shoot 10mm full power stuff, and I want to be able to shoot something equivalent to 40 S&W loads, so I'll get the 10mm and buy a variety of different power ammo." IS this an accurate assessment of your assertion?

I think the nice part about buying factory ammo that is watered down, is that as this thread points out, you can get it relatively cheaply, at least cheaper than full power ammo. It makes sense. Cheaper bullets and less powder should result in cheaper ammo. If you are a reloader, then you get the brass as well. I prefer to just buy Starline Brass, bullets, primers, and some AA#9, and load my own to mid range 10mm levels. (1250 fps range)



Like the 9 mm the case is full of powder and very efficient. Unlike the 45 ACP and 10 mm which are roomier cases. Although large bullet do fill 10 mm case nicely.
I agree on the benefit of being able to load longer and heavier bullets in the 10mm. It's clearly a benefit. I'm not sure though that I agree with the assertion that 45 and 10mm are less efficient cases. 45 can be loaded pretty warm given the right powder, and there isn't a ton of room left in the case with some powders. I mean it isn't typically anywhere near compressed, but it's not like ignition is ever a problem due to powder position. My 10mm loads have powder right up to the base of the bullet.
 
I don't know if you have Sportsman's Warehouse, they usually have S&B here at a good price 15 a box or so. Our LGS gets a few different brands and sells them at the bulk price, so 50 costs the same a box as 500... which is nice. S&B does well in my glock, no complaints...
 
Sig FMJs are the only ones I know of that are close to full power.

I could see buying the S&B stuff just to get the brass. But I just buy from Starline now.
Was reading just this weekend that except for special FBI "tactical" teams, that use full power 10mm loads, the rest of the FBI teams that still DO use the 10mm, are loaded down to .40 S&W ballistics. Most of the "everyday" FBI personnel have switched to the 9mm. Capacity and recoil/follow-up shot reasons.
 
I appreciate all responses folks.

I think I have the range/target/weak ammo down to S&B and Sig.

Now for store bought full house loads, stuff for woods carry as it were.

I've looked at the two most popular it seems, Underwood and Buffalo Bore. I'm interested in hearing what folks have to say about weight versus speed. You've got 115 to 140gr at 1500 to 1700fps versus 200 to 220gr at around 1200fps. What would you choose and why?

It seems that both brands of the heavier flat nosed lead rounds seem to be sold out most places, I wonder why. ;)
 
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