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Just let me ask, do people know the difference between a cane and a club. And do people understand any cane with metal will be confiscated at an airport. You need a lot of mass and cutting points. I may be misunderstanding what you are talking about but understand my viewpoint. I have scene people pounded like tent stakes and they were not phased. It was an eventual choke out that worked. It takes devastating injuries to critical areas to win. I always looked at it this way. I didn't ask for it and these a$$holes pushed it. :evil:

Jim
 
I'd like to see the canes confiscated at airports...Perhaps you have some pics to share? No? I didn't think so. Unless it's an already illegal sword cane, or something with hidden storage, ADA covers it. I have a walking stick with a stainless steel ferule supporting a pool cue ball top which will accompany me to DC for the 2A march in April '10.
 
I have one blackthorn stick I bought in England in 1982 that has an iron ferule on the bottom and a Blackthorn knobby handle stick with a brass ferule bought in Ireland in 1986. Both have been through many many airport security checks since 9-11. No problems with either. Both do have a rubber end tip from Lowes on them for non slip on pavement. All they ever do is X-ry them to make sure there's nothing inside of them. They hand the stick right back to me after I walk through the metal detector.

I've never seen any wooden ealking stick or cane confiscated at an airport, unless as said it was a sword cane or something. I don't think anyone would be that stupid to try to get one of thoe things past even the TSA Deputy Fife's.
 
Cane attack

From the Canton, Ohio Repository:

"November 18, 2009
Section: canton


Canton man accused of beating woman with her deceased mother's cane
Lori Monsewicz
CantonRep.com staff writer

The boyfriend of a woman severely beaten with her dead mother's cane has been charged in the attack and jailed in lieu of more than a half million dollars bond.

Richard Crawley, 45, of 1219 Dueber Ave. SW, was initially arrested Nov. 12 on a warrant charging him with having weapons under disability. The charge stems from a 2006 conviction on a domestic violence charge, one that had been reduced from felonious assault.

Crawley was charged additionally on Wednesday with felonious assault, according to Stark County Court records. Jail records listed his total bond at $550,000.

Crawley is accused of having beaten Kathleen Jester, 45, at their home with her deceased mother's cane on Nov. 11.

When her 14-year-old son, Zackary Hughes, did not show up for school the day after the assault, police issued a news release announcing that they were looking for the boy.

Sgt. Eric Risner of the Canton Police Department's Detective Bureau said the young man arrived home where police met him later that night. Child Protective Services was notified, Risner said.

At the time, Jester was listed in Aultman Hospital's Intensive Care Unit. She has since been released, Risner said.

Details of events leading up to her assault were not available."


While there is no information about the cane used, it presumably didn't have to have cutting points to be effective and put her in intensive care. It's unlikely her mother's cane would have been weaponized.
 
"While there is no information about the cane used, it presumably didn't have to have cutting points to be effective and put her in intensive care. It's unlikely her mother's cane would have been weaponized. "



Never underestimate the medical supply wooden cane. They have a medical supply near me, and the plain jane wood canes are tagged as being ash. Thats a nice reiliant wood, not to mention the wood that louisville sluggers are made from.
 
You don't have to have "cutting points" to be "effective".

How, how long, and to what part of the body you apply the cane to determines most of the results. And whether the cane withstands the stress of being used.

Canes and sticks have been used to maim and kill for thousands of years and they didn't require modification to be effective. You don't find such fanciful modern features on canes, sticks, staves and staffs from the ages where they were primary weapons, nor from more rural/remote places in this modern era, so what makes any of us think that they're essential to maim and kill today?
 
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Yeah, you guys are right it's more stick fighting vs clubbing. Its the difference between a trained and non-trained victim. I've used them all and PR 24 has to take the award. But I too like straight sticks. I've used pool sticks on a few occasions to some success. But I don't necessarily use a straight stick as a club, as with a cane. It's really stick fighting; this type of fighting should be taught in gym class. We would be a stronger country for it.


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Ok, I received (Monday) my medium wt stock cane from NASCO $18.53 (shipping was more than the cane). How long to boil open the crook? I'll tell ya, less than 5 minutes! All righty then. All I need now is the rubber tip and I am good to go! Thanks guys for all the info. I tried the wooden dowel thing but could't find an appropriate wooden ball for it and I have no means to make or drill one at present. I'll try that another time.
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Well delta boy maybe. You have to understand what you have come up against. Defensive canes are made to make injuries beyond a simple stick or your drug store cane. I don't care what you use but I do know the best thing to have in your hand when misunderstandings come to blows.



Jim
 
Xmas

Well, it's not a "cane" per se, but Xmas was kind and I now have a dapper little umbrella.
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With any luck, I won't get the opportunity to field test it under stress conditions.

That said, I must observe that it's got a really nice heft and balance for an umbrella. In fact, it has a nice heft & balance as a cane.

Unusual for an umbrella. But nice.

 
I've recently finished a few new fighters...One in hickory, one cherry, one hickory-walnut laminate and one in maple. All are steel cored, and have stainless tips, with stainless ferules with cue ball tops (specialty tops with sports logos and such). Tops and tips are joined to the steel core. I'll get pics up soon, but it's just too doggone cold out right now...
 
anybody ever thought of a cane that has a deep hole drilled in the top that you can fit a nice pen into? then maybe build the rest of the cane to fit the pen or something? reminds me of those harry potter movies with the one long haired mean guy with the wand in the top of the cane. Like that idea, jut smaller to fit a pen.

It would be pretty cool.
 
Be very careful with steel cores in canes/walking sticks. In a lot of juristictions that will classify as a 'loaded' club. Deep hot water if caught trying to get through security.
 
I was at a local antique shop the other day that had some old school fighting canes. Not sure of the wood used in the shaft, but the handles were hollow steel or iron spheres, slightly larger than a golfball but smaller than a billiard ball. The foot is rubber but has a steel "lip" just above it that protrudes outwards. I'm guess it's designed to look like a normal rubber foot from a distance, but if used for a swinging strike, the lip is the point of impact.

Didn't buy though, the bloke wants $150 or so and the things are rusted to hell and reek of mothballs.
 
lloveless, I got one of the Stock Canes like you got, only the heavy one. I cut about 21/2" off the end of the crook and rounded off where I cut. Sanded the Cane until it was good and smooth. Put one light coat of Golden Oak stain on it, then started the Boiled Linseed Oil treatment on it. Very light coat rubbed in, every hour for a day. Then every day for a week, every week for a month, once a month for a year. I'm doing the once a week, but ready to start once a month. The Cane is Beautiful and is a very good cane for walking or defense.
 
I was at a local antique shop the other day that had some old school fighting canes. Not sure of the wood used in the shaft, but the handles were hollow steel or iron spheres, slightly larger than a golfball but smaller than a billiard ball. The foot is rubber but has a steel "lip" just above it that protrudes outwards. I'm guess it's designed to look like a normal rubber foot from a distance, but if used for a swinging strike, the lip is the point of impact.

Didn't buy though, the bloke wants $150 or so and the things are rusted to hell and reek of mothballs.

Geez...The most expensive one I make is $150.00...At least it's new and won't rust. Maybe I'm not asking enough...
 
Geez...The most expensive one I make is $150.00...At least it's new and won't rust. Maybe I'm not asking enough...

nah, this guy is out of his gourd if you ask me. Everything in his stall is overpriced.
 
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