JVoutilainen
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Yes, it works because boiling water (temperature) makes lignin - stuff that holds plant fibers together - malleable. When temperature is brought down it re solidifies. This is a commonly used technique in woodworking.
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Deltaboy1984
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Anybody got a new cane they want to show us?
I just bought a carbon fiber cane a few days ago. It won't make much of a weapon at only half a pound but it does take the pressure off my arthritis knees. Those old football injuries really do come back to haunt you when you get older.
I also have a hickory cane with a crook handle that would put a serious knot on someone's head if I ever had to swing it. Cane Mart, where I bought the carbon fiber cane, sells heavy duty canes too which are much thicker than a regular cane. You could bust a skull with those things so I would limit any swinging to the leg area or the hips.
It's possible to buy all sorts of canes including canes with swords in them. But that's a real good way to go to jail if you ever had to explain yourself to a LEO. That's not a good idea. The way I understand things if that you can have the swords sharpened too so that they are essentially the same as a rapier sword and not just a rapier type that only has a sharp point. Some of those canes can be sharpened at least half way up the blade. You're talking some very serious self defense with a weapon like that. But my state doesn't allow carrying any kind of a concealed weapon except a handgun. That doesn't really make sense but them's the rules.
This place sells the Blackthorn canes I saw someone ask about in this thread. It was an old post and I didn't read the whole thread so maybe he found what he was looking for anyway.
I also have a hickory cane with a crook handle that would put a serious knot on someone's head if I ever had to swing it. Cane Mart, where I bought the carbon fiber cane, sells heavy duty canes too which are much thicker than a regular cane. You could bust a skull with those things so I would limit any swinging to the leg area or the hips.
It's possible to buy all sorts of canes including canes with swords in them. But that's a real good way to go to jail if you ever had to explain yourself to a LEO. That's not a good idea. The way I understand things if that you can have the swords sharpened too so that they are essentially the same as a rapier sword and not just a rapier type that only has a sharp point. Some of those canes can be sharpened at least half way up the blade. You're talking some very serious self defense with a weapon like that. But my state doesn't allow carrying any kind of a concealed weapon except a handgun. That doesn't really make sense but them's the rules.
This place sells the Blackthorn canes I saw someone ask about in this thread. It was an old post and I didn't read the whole thread so maybe he found what he was looking for anyway.
Mike U.
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P35,
Ace Hardware or one of the Home Depot type stores have what your looking for. That is, the rubber slip on caps used on furniture legs. That's what I use on my sticks. They come in different sizes so you can take your stick and fit it right there.
Ace Hardware or one of the Home Depot type stores have what your looking for. That is, the rubber slip on caps used on furniture legs. That's what I use on my sticks. They come in different sizes so you can take your stick and fit it right there.
Chuck, the blackthorn items you are mentioning are actually authentic shillelaghs...they are 20-30" in length (from Cane Mart).
http://www.gutterfighting.org/coldsteel.html
http://www.gutterfighting.org/fstick.html
http://www.gutterfighting.org/Umbrella.html
Those 3 links are for your reading pleasure...since I saw you talking about "swinging" a cane I assumed you meant like a bat. The 3 links show much better ways of using them, which should work with your carbon fiber cane.
http://www.gutterfighting.org/coldsteel.html
http://www.gutterfighting.org/fstick.html
http://www.gutterfighting.org/Umbrella.html
Those 3 links are for your reading pleasure...since I saw you talking about "swinging" a cane I assumed you meant like a bat. The 3 links show much better ways of using them, which should work with your carbon fiber cane.
Clipper
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Finally took some pics of my work. The first is a shillelagh I made from an unknown piece I have had drying in the garage for some years, and finally finished it for my wife. The second was an experiment, made from a hardwood dowel with a head of billet brass I had lying around. The third is my inaugural professional walking stick, with a walnut shaft, and stainless hardware. The top is polished on the bottom, and brushed on top, and the polished tip ending with a 45* point with a 1/8" flat. A nylon ring in the crutch tip protects the tip from the washer cast into the bottom of the crutch tip. The client saw my original, and wanted one of his own...
BTW, weight is 39.7oz, OAL 40"
BTW, weight is 39.7oz, OAL 40"
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Nice work, Clipper.
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Deltaboy1984
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Nice jobs Clipper!
Clipper
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Thanks fellers. I'll have a couple more ready in a day or two. I'll post some pics...
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Deltaboy1984
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Cool I will be looking to see what you crank out.
P97
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I just ordered one of the heavy Stock Canes. I have a nice oak cane, but it is awful light. I think I would like one of the heavy stock canes and sand and finish it.
ROGER4314
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Before you could get a Texas CHL, I carried CANE MASTER units in Oak and Hickory. We walk the Texas beaches in areas that are very remote, isolated and accessible only by Jeep. The cane makes a dandy tool for flipping shells over and if needed, can serve to tune up a bad guy. Yes......the need has come up. Now that I carry a little buddy every day, the cane is just used as a shell flipper.
These are fine pieces of equipment and the VHS tapes the company markets are very effective. Having been around fighting all of my life, I am pretty hard to shock. The Cane Master tapes, however, made me wince! My gosh, that has to hurt! I recommend them to anyone who needs an effective self defense program and you can take your cane anywhere.
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These are fine pieces of equipment and the VHS tapes the company markets are very effective. Having been around fighting all of my life, I am pretty hard to shock. The Cane Master tapes, however, made me wince! My gosh, that has to hurt! I recommend them to anyone who needs an effective self defense program and you can take your cane anywhere.
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Here's a cane and a walking stick I just finished. The cane is ash, and is from a dead tree, with lots of discoloration and shallow worm tracks that were beneath the bark, and a couple of small worm holes...In other words, lots of character! I made it for me, and it uses a pool cue bumper for the tip, with 6 coats of polycrylic. The walking stick is another piece of ash, with a couple of tiny worm holes and a couple shallow tracks. The top is a polished stainless ferule with a Guinness logo pool cue ball. This is steel supported 4" into the shaft. The tip is a 1" cane tip. Eight coats of poly. Both got a couple coats of paste wax too.
The cane, I haven't weighed yet, but is very light, and the stick weighs 25oz.
Here's a cane and a walking stick I just finished. The cane is ash, and is from a dead tree, with lots of discoloration and shallow worm tracks that were beneath the bark, and a couple of small worm holes...In other words, lots of character! I made it for me, and it uses a pool cue bumper for the tip, with 6 coats of polycrylic. The walking stick is another piece of ash, with a couple of tiny worm holes and a couple shallow tracks. The top is a polished stainless ferule with a Guinness logo pool cue ball. This is steel supported 4" into the shaft. The tip is a 1" cane tip. Eight coats of poly. Both got a couple coats of paste wax too.
The cane, I haven't weighed yet, but is very light, and the stick weighs 25oz.
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JMusic
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I carried a 3 cell d size mag light in my day. It was the largest weapon I've carried. But it did fail on me a couple times. I have the BB, and you have much more capability. I haven't taken any courses but it has slash and
rake capabilities when using two hands. Far above the capabilities of the stick or knife. Here's a shoot of the hook or top.
Jim
rake capabilities when using two hands. Far above the capabilities of the stick or knife. Here's a shoot of the hook or top.
Jim
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I'm having problems attatching I,ll get it in the next few days. What I want to show is the design with defensive to offensive tactics in mind.
Jim
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wuluf
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Thanks to all for this thread and others like it. I bought a hawthorn root cane from Whistle Creek:
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/whistlecreek_2074_6917009
It came yesterday and it's solid and heavy! Mine looks a great deal like the one pictured. Great cane and thanks again for the help, Rob
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/whistlecreek_2074_6917009
It came yesterday and it's solid and heavy! Mine looks a great deal like the one pictured. Great cane and thanks again for the help, Rob
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Kydaviddoyle
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Hi Guys,
Great discussion. I've been working on pulling together some cane info. on a web page.
I did put up a review / notes of:
Martial Cane Concepts - A Realistic System of Walking Stick Self-Defense
by Michael D. Janich
https://sites.google.com/site/davidcanesite/videos/review-note_martial_cane_concepts
Main page
https://sites.google.com/site/davidcanesite/home
One really nice thing is you can rent it from http://goldstarvideo.com/title/935 for $8 for 30 days.
Please note I don't make any money from goldstar or sell of the video.
Please let me know if you have any good links or info.
Take Care
David
Great discussion. I've been working on pulling together some cane info. on a web page.
I did put up a review / notes of:
Martial Cane Concepts - A Realistic System of Walking Stick Self-Defense
by Michael D. Janich
https://sites.google.com/site/davidcanesite/videos/review-note_martial_cane_concepts
Main page
https://sites.google.com/site/davidcanesite/home
One really nice thing is you can rent it from http://goldstarvideo.com/title/935 for $8 for 30 days.
Please note I don't make any money from goldstar or sell of the video.
Please let me know if you have any good links or info.
Take Care
David
SeekHer
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My friend just showed me the one he rebuilt...He had an old wooden handled ripping/framing hammer, the one with the straight not bent nail puller in a 20 or 22 ounce weight that got chewed on by a porcupine so there was hardly anything left when he removed the stub of wood and inserted a 44" piece of very old (100+ yrs and true dimension) 2x4 fir stud that he shaped to fit the eye...He then took it to the lathe and rounded the portion exposed to around 1 7/16 ths inch, turned down the last 3/4 inch to except a brass ferrule, assembled it and is calling it his modern war hammer cane...He took some of that "Grip Tape" that cushions and prevents slipping--looks like leather--and wrapped all the metal with it to a) make it comfortable and b) to camouflage not disguise it...
Quite comfortable to handle, the wood is very dense and heavy and I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of that head hitting with the additional leverage of the longer shaft...I doubt he'll use it on the streets as a walking stick but it was a nice project to kill time during this very heavy snowfall that's preventing us from hunting...
Quite comfortable to handle, the wood is very dense and heavy and I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of that head hitting with the additional leverage of the longer shaft...I doubt he'll use it on the streets as a walking stick but it was a nice project to kill time during this very heavy snowfall that's preventing us from hunting...
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Deltaboy1984
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I will have to make me a Hammer head Walking stick soon.
Clipper
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A question for you guys. I'm working on a piece of white oak that's been drying all summer, but the bark is really hard to remove! I've been belt sanding this thing for hours, and the stuff is taking forever! I don't want to go with too agressive a belt, so I don't leave a ton of finish sanding to get it smooth again, and wondered if anyone has a technique for removal, or at least losening the bark up?
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Deltaboy1984
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Soak it in water !
JMusic
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Comparison between drug store cane and fighting cane. the old one was my grandfathers made from walnut. I've stick and cane use for years but cane masters set the bar for non metallic tipped canes. This cane has gone through several airports and spent 30 days with me in Cleveland, which I was advised to not go out at night. Well I did and had a couple probes but no takers. I think the cane was a big part of that along with awareness.
Jim
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