Ratdog68
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I hear 'dem puppies have TWO wedges since 'dey's so much more powerful !!
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Ratdog68
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You da man Clembert !! You da man !!! Now... go forth and nuke 'em and puke 'em ! Send me that puney little Pietta... you deserve that glow in da dark pistola... you just like that fancy suit... can't fool me !yup, but days gots a special nuclear tipped punch dats used to remove da wedgies so no problemo....
Das Jaeger
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So , did you get it out ?
They must have backed a truck over it to get it that tight ?. Somebody in Italy is laughin there arse off at ya Clembert at Pietta .
Steel punch , pointed so it don't skip out , get new wedge .
Jaeger
So , did you get it out ?
They must have backed a truck over it to get it that tight ?. Somebody in Italy is laughin there arse off at ya Clembert at Pietta .
Steel punch , pointed so it don't skip out , get new wedge .
Jaeger
NO!!!! :banghead:
I likes it cause its purty!
Whens I crams dat sucker full of 777 I expects dat sucker is gonna self eject dat wedge.....hehehehe
p.s. Pietta gorilla ain't gonna be laughin' as hard when he realized that Uberti is gettin' my money instead of Pietta when possible.
Das Jaeger
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I doubt
a full load of Tripple 7 is goona do sqwuat to that revolver Clembert .
You can try that of course though , who knows , wish you luck though anyways .
Sorry to hear one idot at Pieatta is gonna ruin your whole picking list for revolvers . Uberti has nowhere near the selction of Pietta , and makes none of some of the really good ones you know .
Won't you be pissed if Uberti sends you a bad one too ? Don't think it doesn't happen either, I hope you like Grey CCH
Pietta also seats and milled there arbors correctly on the Colts in my experince , Uberti don't .
Its a crap shoot. Cabelas will take it back even with your isuue , no questions asked , why not send it back ? I have sent a coupel back even after I fired them , new ones were at the hosue in four days aftere they got um .
If you want to keep the revolver, sacrafice that wedge , you can alwasy reshape the face and cold blue it. Smack that sucker hard with a punch like I described . Put two peices of flat brass on your anvil or vise to raise the gun up off the vise so its rock steady when your trying to loosen a wedge that tight. If your holding it in your hand it will enver come out .
Geta blastin with that tripple 7 I suppose, not the best plan I have heard today, that stuff is high octain in an open top .
Good luck, Jeager
a full load of Tripple 7 is goona do sqwuat to that revolver Clembert .
You can try that of course though , who knows , wish you luck though anyways .
Sorry to hear one idot at Pieatta is gonna ruin your whole picking list for revolvers . Uberti has nowhere near the selction of Pietta , and makes none of some of the really good ones you know
. Won't you be pissed if Uberti sends you a bad one too ? Don't think it doesn't happen either, I hope you like Grey CCH
Pietta also seats and milled there arbors correctly on the Colts in my experince , Uberti don't .
Its a crap shoot. Cabelas will take it back even with your isuue , no questions asked , why not send it back ? I have sent a coupel back even after I fired them , new ones were at the hosue in four days aftere they got um .
If you want to keep the revolver, sacrafice that wedge , you can alwasy reshape the face and cold blue it. Smack that sucker hard with a punch like I described . Put two peices of flat brass on your anvil or vise to raise the gun up off the vise so its rock steady when your trying to loosen a wedge that tight. If your holding it in your hand it will enver come out .
Geta blastin with that tripple 7 I suppose, not the best plan I have heard today, that stuff is high octain in an open top .
Good luck, Jeager
I did send it back...remember?
My point was that I'd pick a Uberti over a Pietta when it comes to the same model that both make. I've taken a look at several new production Ubertis and compared my finding having looked at several new production Piettas (different models from friends). So far the Ubertis seem to be a little bit better as far as fit and finish. Regarding this 1851, I'd buy it again from the Pietta gorilla because Uberti doesn't have one like it or at a price that low. You get what you paid for I suppose. No worries, that wedge IS gonna come out. It is somewhat of a dead issue thus far except you and Ratdog are having too much fun reviving it...hehehe.
This Uberti doesn't look too gray does it?
My reference to 777 was a fun poke at one of our other members (I'll keep him nameless) who said he won't use 777 anymore because it made the wedges on his revolvers pop out.
My point was that I'd pick a Uberti over a Pietta when it comes to the same model that both make. I've taken a look at several new production Ubertis and compared my finding having looked at several new production Piettas (different models from friends). So far the Ubertis seem to be a little bit better as far as fit and finish. Regarding this 1851, I'd buy it again from the Pietta gorilla because Uberti doesn't have one like it or at a price that low. You get what you paid for I suppose. No worries, that wedge IS gonna come out. It is somewhat of a dead issue thus far except you and Ratdog are having too much fun reviving it...hehehe.
This Uberti doesn't look too gray does it?
My reference to 777 was a fun poke at one of our other members (I'll keep him nameless) who said he won't use 777 anymore because it made the wedges on his revolvers pop out.
Ratdog68
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M R Purrrrdeeee !!!
Hmmm... I missed any reference to you saying you'd sent it back already... sorry 'bout that. Otay... no more stuck wedgie references... although... does that qualify a feller for some "quitter" remarks?
Hmmmm... does 'zat mean that my 777 may've been a contributing factor to my Walker's wedge popping loose? I dunno whether it does or not... but, I ain't "give up" on my 777 yet. I likes the stuff.
So? Yer ClemBertness? You gettin' 'nudder one just like it from Cabela's?
You snaggin' up that ultra purdee CCH 1858 ?!?! Don't make my mistake and use metal polish on it if ya do. :banghead:
I did send it back...remember?
My point was that I'd pick a Uberti over a Pietta when it comes to the same model that both make. I've taken a look at several new production Ubertis and compared my finding having looked at several new production Piettas (different models from friends). So far the Ubertis seem to be a little bit better as far as fit and finish. Regarding this 1851, I'd buy it again from the Pietta gorilla because Uberti doesn't have one like it or at a price that low. You get what you paid for I suppose. No worries, that wedge IS gonna come out. It is somewhat of a dead issue thus far except you and Ratdog are having too much fun reviving it...hehehe.
This Uberti doesn't look too gray does it?
My reference to 777 was a fun poke at one of our other members (I'll keep him nameless) who said he won't use 777 anymore because it made the wedges on his revolvers pop out.
Hmmm... I missed any reference to you saying you'd sent it back already... sorry 'bout that. Otay... no more stuck wedgie references... although... does that qualify a feller for some "quitter" remarks?
Hmmmm... does 'zat mean that my 777 may've been a contributing factor to my Walker's wedge popping loose? I dunno whether it does or not... but, I ain't "give up" on my 777 yet.
I likes the stuff.So? Yer ClemBertness? You gettin' 'nudder one just like it from Cabela's?
You snaggin' up that ultra purdee CCH 1858 ?!?! Don't make my mistake and use metal polish on it if ya do. :banghead:
I enjoy a good ribbin'...you and the Ratpup keep it up...its toooo funny at this point.
You would have had to follow this thread to have known I sent it back then got the second one and currently have the same problem with the second one they sent. :banghead:
I already done snagged that 1858 Remmie. That's of pic of my sole Uberti I have in my possession. Gonna go for a Uberti Walker next. I can live with it if it comes out a bit on the gray side but my 1858 Remmie seems to not have that issue.
I likes the 777. My ROAs love to eat it up! Burrrp.....
You would have had to follow this thread to have known I sent it back then got the second one and currently have the same problem with the second one they sent. :banghead:
I already done snagged that 1858 Remmie. That's of pic of my sole Uberti I have in my possession. Gonna go for a Uberti Walker next. I can live with it if it comes out a bit on the gray side but my 1858 Remmie seems to not have that issue.
I likes the 777. My ROAs love to eat it up! Burrrp.....
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That's a really nice 1858 Clembert!
I went to a club out of town today to participate in their ''KM'', in Örebro- that's their Club Championship in black powder. We shot 13 shots, is that the same in the states as well? Well. I'm not a member of their club, so it doesn't count
But I won, that's what counts. 90/100 points. Used my original Colt 1860 for that. Lots of fun
I went to a club out of town today to participate in their ''KM'', in Örebro- that's their Club Championship in black powder. We shot 13 shots, is that the same in the states as well? Well. I'm not a member of their club, so it doesn't count
But I won, that's what counts. 90/100 points. Used my original Colt 1860 for that. Lots of fun
arcticap
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The Original Rampant Colt
http://www.museumofcthistory.org/colt.asp
Congrat's from merry old Connecticut, home of all of the "Hartford, Connecticut" made Colts.
You showed them how good old fashioned 1st Generation Colt "senority" really helped you to earn some rank!
Is yours a London model?
http://www.museumofcthistory.org/colt.asp
Congrat's from merry old Connecticut, home of all of the "Hartford, Connecticut" made Colts.
You showed them how good old fashioned 1st Generation Colt "senority" really helped you to earn some rank!
Is yours a London model?
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Ratdog68
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Sweet ol' Colt !!! And, congrats on showin' 'em how it's done !!I went to a club out of town today to participate in their ''KM'', in Örebro- that's their Club Championship in black powder. We shot 13 shots, is that the same in the states as well? Well. I'm not a member of their club, so it doesn't count
Yeah, that's true Clembert! But with worse a gun than this I'd get worse results I have to aim this thing down to the left, like a seven o'clock hold. Would be nice to have some adjustable sights; but that's cheating I guess
I've ordered some internals for one of my 58's, going to swap everything in that gun. Those sights are alot easier to see!! But cutting the barrel down to a 5 or maybe 6 inch would help get rid of the front heaviness?`Well anyhow, fun sport!
I have to aim this thing down to the left, like a seven o'clock hold. Would be nice to have some adjustable sights; but that's cheating I guess I've ordered some internals for one of my 58's, going to swap everything in that gun. Those sights are alot easier to see!! But cutting the barrel down to a 5 or maybe 6 inch would help get rid of the front heaviness?`Well anyhow, fun sport!
Arcticap;
Thanks a lot! I really shoot a lot, but black powder is the coolest. Just put her back together after the dishes =) London, how do I spot if this is a London Colt? The barrel adress says nothing about London, and the trigger guard is brass??
// Daniel
Thanks a lot! I really shoot a lot, but black powder is the coolest. Just put her back together after the dishes =) London, how do I spot if this is a London Colt? The barrel adress says nothing about London, and the trigger guard is brass??
// Daniel
arcticap
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Your guess is as good as mine!
From what I gather all of the [iron trigger guard] 1860's were finished in Hartford and were ordered from London with a London address or not, and some with either an iron or brass triggerguard.
There were serial number ranges, some are British proofed and some not.
And apparently London did do some of its own scroll engraving.
I can only suggest reading the following reference pages in their entirety and maybe someone else will jump in with more info.
From what I gather all of the [iron trigger guard] 1860's were finished in Hartford and were ordered from London with a London address or not, and some with either an iron or brass triggerguard.
There were serial number ranges, some are British proofed and some not.
And apparently London did do some of its own scroll engraving.
I can only suggest reading the following reference pages in their entirety and maybe someone else will jump in with more info.
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Well, since my gun has a brass frontstrap, makes it an 'ordinary' Army.44 then, right? Well, does not matter, it shoots good. And I'm more of a shooter than a collector I think. But they get pampered and taken care of after use.
// Daniel.
// Daniel.
arcticap
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Colt does perform a research of their records to produce letters of authenticity for $300 but I don't know if that would provide anything of substance pertaining to whether the gun was originally produced for London or not or who it was shipped to.
Anyone?
At least one question is whether it's British proofed or not?
Or maybe it was privately ordered?
Anyone?
At least one question is whether it's British proofed or not?
Or maybe it was privately ordered?
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Arcticap;
Nope, I don't think it has any British stamps. The only gun I have with British stamps is my original 1st Dragoon, it has had the barrel assembly replaced sometime to a London proofed one. Otherwise it's all matching. How come you think it's a London Army, when it seems to be just a regular gun?
// Daniel
Nope, I don't think it has any British stamps. The only gun I have with British stamps is my original 1st Dragoon, it has had the barrel assembly replaced sometime to a London proofed one. Otherwise it's all matching. How come you think it's a London Army, when it seems to be just a regular gun?
// Daniel
arcticap
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I intitially only intended to ask if it was a London model which opened a whole can of worms.
It must have come to Britain somehow, either originally when it was new or sometime afterward.
It could have been sold through the London Agency or if not it was ordered & delivered through private hands.
I believe that it was asked how one could tell.
I can't say that it really matters to me one way or another.
Although I did learn a lot just by coming to the realization that some Colts are London guns and some aren't.
The rest is just like the curiousity generated by a well written mystery.
Shhhhh! The details about the gun are supposed to be a secret!
It must have come to Britain somehow, either originally when it was new or sometime afterward.
It could have been sold through the London Agency or if not it was ordered & delivered through private hands.
I believe that it was asked how one could tell.
I can't say that it really matters to me one way or another.
Although I did learn a lot just by coming to the realization that some Colts are London guns and some aren't.
The rest is just like the curiousity generated by a well written mystery.
Shhhhh! The details about the gun are supposed to be a secret!
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Das Jaeger
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Clembert
fine Uberti there . When you pay near double for that Charcoal finish on the 58 , you start getting better guns , I notice this in the nice Uberti Rifles as well . Like you stated , you get what you pay for mostly in life
Glad you don't take the ribbin to harsh anyways , we be both jokin totally with ya anywayz .
Jaeger
fine Uberti there .
When you pay near double for that Charcoal finish on the 58 , you start getting better guns , I notice this in the nice Uberti Rifles as well . Like you stated , you get what you pay for mostly in life Glad you don't take the ribbin to harsh anyways , we be both jokin totally with ya anywayz .
Jaeger
Jaegermeister,
That one set me back $289...tax, tags, title...in my hands...not TOO bad given that sucker was ready to go without needin' the gunsmithin'.
The 1851 set me back $230...again, tax, tags, title...in my hands....but as you know we have yet to see how much gunsmithin' that one is gonna take. :banghead:
That one set me back $289...tax, tags, title...in my hands...not TOO bad given that sucker was ready to go without needin' the gunsmithin'.
The 1851 set me back $230...again, tax, tags, title...in my hands....but as you know we have yet to see how much gunsmithin' that one is gonna take. :banghead:
Das Jaeger
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Ummm
used maybe ?
I have clocked that mdoel at over $500 now for the CF at Taylors , what gives ?
Jaeger
used maybe ?
I have clocked that mdoel at over $500 now for the CF at Taylors , what gives ?
Jaeger
Das Jaeger
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Ummm
let me rephraze that , the Gals quoted me just over $500 to get that model with shipping included to the door . They don't even list that model on the web-site actaully .
Jaeger
let me rephraze that , the Gals quoted me just over $500 to get that model with shipping included to the door . They don't even list that model on the web-site actaully .
Jaeger
Brand spanking new! It came directly from Cimarron. To be honest I think that sucker normally goes for $333 plus shipping through Buffalo Arms but I was lucky to get it delivered for $289 because they were out of stock on another 1858 Remmie I ordered.
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