CA's AB 1471 Microstamping Q&A

[Jim Diver]

Hmm.

Also effects the sale of reloads... would you buy once fired brass or reloads if you thought it might have some one else's micro stamped serial number on it??? I sure as hell won't.

I bet the next thing they outlaw will be brass catchers.

 

[crazed_ss]

The more I think about it the more I think that gun companies won't want to make a microstamp gun due to the costs, but they won't want to rock the California boat either, so they just leave it status quo and sell what they have, fire their R&D departments, and continue on......

This my theory also. Someone over at calguns commented that they had contacted Springfield Armory and SA stated that they simply wont introduce any new models into Cali so they wont have to deal with microstamping. They're content to sell the models that are already certified. I wouldnt be suprised if Glock, Sig, and whoever else decide to go the same route.

 

[Librarian]

This my theory also. Someone over at calguns commented that they had contacted Springfield Armory and SA stated that they simply wont introduce any new models into Cali so they wont have to deal with microstamping. They're content to sell the models that are already certified. I wouldnt be suprised if Glock, Sig, and whoever else decide to go the same route.

I agree; I think IF they're allowed to do this, they'll keep selling non-microstamping models.

The problem comes when our elected 'representatives' decide that the guns now on the Roster need a new feature... The next change could affect all the guns, on the Roster or not.

 

[DKSuddeth]

is there a 'one gun month' law in cali? if so, look for gun sales to skyrocket until 2010.

 

[Jim Diver]

^^^ yes there is a 1 gun per month law.

 

[billwiese]

^^ yes there is a 1 gun per month law.

It's one *handgun* per month. Which is generally true - but there are exceptions:

(1) it's really "one new handgun purchased from an FFL" law. This law does not cover handguns transferred within CA by CA residents via FFL (PPT= "private party transfer"; most all CA gun transfers need FFL intervention). It also does not include handguns that are inherited, or that have been transferred "interfamily" between grandparent/parent/child (the only specified authorized relationships - no brothers, uncles, etc.)

(2) 'One handgun a month' does not apply to residents who hold both a C&R FFL and a COE (Certificate of Eligibility). The COE is a document that gunshop staff have - it costs $22/yr, and first time around you have to spend around $50 for DOJ+FBI fingerprint fees and 'LiveScan' service.


Bill Wiese
San Jose CA

 

[Mr. James]

Lord, this makes me shudder. What hideous legislation. What hideous legislators. My brothers, you'd best march on Sacramento before the assault pitchfork and unsafe torch bans go into effect.

Heads on pikes!

 

[cyclist]

I don't know which one of the multiple microstamping threads to post this in, and it's probably already been asked, but....

Question: Let's say someone takes their microstamped 9mm pistol to the local firing range and does a little target practice and leaves their imprinted s/n brass behind. Next someone else comes in to punch some paper, and while there picks up some of the left behind microstamped brass to take home and reload. This second person has an older non-microstamping 9mm pistol. When person two gets home they clean and reload the microstamped brass. Person two then takes the reloaded microstamped cartridges along on their next trip to the range. What happens to the transferred microstamped imprinting on the casing the next time it is fired?

There are so many loopholes in this from a potential crime solving perspective that it boggles the mind. And I'm not even talking about any illegal alterations of a microstamped firearm here. Oh well, I'll just sit back and watch the show and see what eventually happens.

 

[TexasRifleman]

Only 27 months before this kicks in!

You could have quite a stockpile built up by then at one gun a month.

You'll have a lifetime supply