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The strange ranger badge?

What exactly would you use it for? When would it be "time" to use it? Will it ever be "time" for you to convince the cops that you're a cop-wannabe with a fake badge?
 
i get mail from an organization here in FL that tries to sell me this junk all the time. no way in hell would i carry a badge around saying im a CWP holder. Im not a cop i have the permit in my wallet why would i need a badge??? Its just away for someone to make money off people
 
I immediately have a vision of CCW badge holder as someone with 10 magazines of ammo for his primary and 2 backups that are carried in his "tactical man bag/purse". While also carrying ballistic plate just waiting or the day when the POTUS calls him to save America......

You forgot the assult wheelbarrow. How do you think they're going to get all that stuff there without an assult wheelbarrow?
 
I think badges are a bad idea. One might lose it and it may fall into the wrong hands. Those badges have all of your private information encoded in the emblem.

It would be much better to get a tattoo on your forehead that says, "Warning I am armed and dangerous to myself and others."
 
I have a badge, and I've carried it with me on occasion. But I've never displayed it openly, even when open carrying. I keep it because it's proven very useful, in my experience, in quelling the "you're not allowed to have that" hysterics, especially when I'm open carrying.

Also, in the case of making someone knock something off I figure having a shiny badge will probably make them think twice before the situation warrants stuffing a gun down their throats. To the average thug, The Man (or someone he believes to be The Man) is still a big hassle to stand up to and it's easier to run away.

But it's the same deal as the gun itself: It's no magic talisman, and it has to be used properly.
 
Also, in the case of making someone knock something off I figure having a shiny badge will probably make them think twice before the situation warrants stuffing a gun down their throats. To the average thug, The Man (or someone he believes to be The Man) is still a big hassle to stand up to and it's easier to run away.

So, you advocate impersonating "the Man". Sounds like you are setting yourself up for some really bad legal troubles.
 
If you expose your gun when reaching for the food in a store, you need to rethink your behavior, rather than that of the 'sheeple'.

Such a phrase, means you are a tough guy?
 
Let see, when I was a young man looking for my way in life I took a job as a security guard. Not only did I dress like a cop, I also carried a badge on my shirt and had a rank of lieutenant over my security career and wore the stripes to prove it. I bought my clothes at the same place as the police did. When on duty, the officers called me lieutenant and I called them officer (last name here). In that scenario was I impersonating a cop. I wore my outfit in public and my shirt said security guard. I did not have a gun so I guess that makes it OK or does it? After all I was dressed like a uniform officer and I doubt most people even saw the Security Guard patch. If I had a gun would that uniform make a difference in public if someone did see my gun. I guess my point is if someone does carry a badge and does not say they are a cop why would you assume they are trying to be. I do agree that it is a bad idea for a CCW to carry a badge but there are many scenarios in everyday life that do just that. Now before you say this is different because that is their job, this is not about them but others perception of them. People see a badge and assume they are cops. So getting back to the original question. I believe if someone was truly honest about the reason for the badge then carrying one just like carrying a gun, it would never be seen and should be on your belt right next to your gun but when it was seen it 9 out of 10 times would probably defuse the moment. In real life there will always be those that do think it gives them some sort of power and abuse it. So after all this I still say it would be better to not carry one.
 
I have no Idea why having a badge proclaiming a concealed weapons permit is necessary, and or warranted for a wide variety of reasons. If you are a Security person and or required to have one while On Duty that is different from the mind set that says getting a badge with your permit is "Cool" . To my estimation the people that do this are just out to prove something about themselves. The last thing on earth I would want to do is Advertise the fact that I am carrying. If anything when carrying I don't want to stand out or prove anything to anybody.
 
Agreed that the badge advertising a concealed carry permit is silly in every case I can think of anyway, but as above it shuts people up when they go "you aren't allowed to have a gun, are you?" (this crops up a lot when shooters who come into my store are showing off their new toys, and vise versa).

A badge has a psychological weight of officiality to it that a card with your picture on it does not.

I believe if someone was truly honest about the reason for the badge then carrying one just like carrying a gun, it would never be seen and should be on your belt right next to your gun but when it was seen it 9 out of 10 times would probably defuse the moment. In real life there will always be those that do think it gives them some sort of power and abuse it. So after all this I still say it would be better to not carry one.

Thank you for hitting the danged nail on the head.
 
I used to be an armed security guard

and our uniform was almost an exact replica of the local PD.
I got sick and tired very quickly of the "are you a cop" question
So I just started asking back "why?, do you need a cop? is someone breaking the law?"

NV allows open carry but I conceal anyway...but not by much on hot days so people see it all the time.

I would never ever carry a badge unless I was working security and it was part of my uniform or if I was a cop.

Thats the beauty of great states like NV people mind their own biz, only once did anyone ask me if I was a cop after noticing my gun....she was from Chicago.
 
Wow... I happen to have a very special "badge"... it is a gold stylized star, and it is issued in 1977 as the Ogemaw County, Michigan CLEO/Prosecutors badge...

it is the one made by the county for my mom, when she won her first term as Prosecuting Attorney... the sitting prosecutor left office the day my Mom won the election, so instead of Jan/ 1978, she took office in Nov. '77, and they dutifly had a new badge made that was good for 2 monthes...

I was all of 7 years old, and when the '78 mbadge came in (they were good for the 4 year term, and were dated as such) she gave me the old one...

Since ity is NOT an active LEO badge, (invalid since '78) maybe I oughtta pin it top my holster, so the world thinks the gun is off-duty LEO?

WHAT A FLIPPIN' BAD IDEA... my CCW is LEGAL, and if it happens to show, and some nincimpoop calls the cops, they can check it and me out, and then go tell the nincompoop to go pound sand...
 
grampster said:
I think badges are a bad idea. One might lose it and it may fall into the wrong hands. Those badges have all of your private information encoded in the emblem.


Umm..... Really? Tell me more...
 
I immediately have a vision of CCW badge holder as someone with 10 magazines of ammo for his primary and 2 backups that are carried in his "tactical man bag/purse". While also carrying ballistic plate just waiting or the day when the POTUS calls him to save America......

It not just stupid it is P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C.

You won't be laughing at his badge when he SAVES AMERICA!!! :D
 
Grampster... no offense to my elders, but... WHAT IN SAM HILL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Did someone slip a mickey into your Geritol this AM?

there isn't CRAPOLA encoded in most badges, and CERTAINLY not in mass-produced cheapo CCW "badges"... as mentioned above, I have my mom's first CLEo/Prosecutors badge, and I asure you there is NO "microprinting" on the shield... and it is a VERY high-quality piece...
 
Here in Memphis Tennessee ive heard we have a Permit Training School that actually sells the badge that says THP on it which stands for Tennessee Handgun Permit. The problem is THP also stands for Tennessee Highway Patrol.

See the problem LOL

J
 
I wouldn't carry or wear one, and I wouldn't stick it in my wallet either. After all, it would get in the way of my "Offical Babe Inspector" and "Dangerously Sexy Man License"

CCW Badges are the gun-rag equal of the comic book Charles Atlas ads. :barf:
 
Hemicuda-

I suspect that grampster was being ironical.


As to the CCW "badges," I think they're uselessly stupid and look forward to the day when the company that stamps them out goes out of business due to lack of interest.
 
Justin... if you are right, then I apologize to Grampster...

and Thain... you just reminded me... I DO have an "Official Brothel Inspector" badge... a sweet little tin unit, that looks arather real... now THAT might be worth wearing... say, in Nevada, where there ARE legal brothels... :D
 
You might think I am a dork for saying this, but there is a pretty sound foundation of reasoning here that goes along with the poser elementin a lot of this.

1) Sometimes, posers grow up to become what it is that they are pretending to be. Kids act out all of the time. No one is ever critical of children when they do it. When adults do it to the point that it obscures reality, then there may be an issue there, but for the most part, it is harmless, and it is motivational.

2) Sometimes, these guys that you are so quick to call losers come up with things that really surprise you. Creativity and imagination are the things that aid in developing techniques and systems for defensive purposes. Why do you think people come up with tacticool stuff all the time? Some of it has actually ended up in production and seen usage. When people in real combat situations start relying on poser stuff more than their issue gear, you begin to ask yourself "Why not?"

When I supervised security, my most highly motivated officers were the ones who most people around here would call wannabes. The guys I worked with who were armed had the best range scores and the best equipment I have ever seen. They also knew how to employ said same in a situation, because they constantly drilled with it. Real LEOs that transitioned to security from LE give the impression that they would be better, but the poser crowd consistently out shot them on the range, and did more to prevent crime than most LEOs would ever do. In defense of law enforcement, the job is different, and most LEOs cannot do anything until after a crime is commited, but security IS about deterrence, and sometimes a psychological advantage is good in prevention of crime in the first place.

As to the OP, I do not think that carrying a badge with a CWP is a good idea. But I am all for anything that makes a potential situation de-escalate, and cause a BG to seek other opportunities elsewhere.

My .02, YMMV
 
As to the CCW "badges," I think they're uselessly stupid and look forward to the day when the company that stamps them out goes out of business due to lack of interest.

Noted, but those same compaines generally make badges for oodles of other things, including (gasp!) real police.

The badge, if you decide to use it, is just another tool in the tool box and has to be used properly to be good for anything. Just like the gun, just like the pepper spray, just like the flashlight, and so forth.

This cracks me up: I realize it's the apparent style at the moment to scoff at CCW badges as "unneccessary" and, arguably, they very well may be. But I notice that members on this board (I won't name names, it doesn't matter) use precisely the same sort of derisive language and condescending attitude for badges as plenty of anti-gunners use on us for our guns. I have to ask you: If it's not illegal wherever someone has one, what's it do you if they do? We're not saying you need to have one. If you don't like it, vote with your feet (or with your wallet).

Still others on this board deride badges for whatever reason, but these others are people who launch into chapter and verse on topics such as maintaining awareness (important) and associated details like not frequenting bad areas if avoidable, not making yourself look like a victim, portraying yourself as someone criminals won't want to mess with. Doesn't an "I have a gun" badge fall into the category of something that might portray you as someone who would be a poor choice of victim...?
 
I have to ask you: If it's not illegal wherever someone has one, what's it do you if they do? We're not saying you need to have one. If you don't like it, vote with your feet (or with your wallet).

They might not be illegal to possess, but depending how they are used they may very well be illegal. If you are displaying one as a ruse to convince the public that you are a police officer so they will pay no attention if they see your concealed handgun, you could easily be charged with impersonating an officer. I know that if I encountered you with your CCW badge clipped to your belt next to your holster and you gave me that explanation, I'd have to think long and hard for reasons why I shouldn't arrest you.

There is a shortage of qualified police applicants nationwide. If you want to wear a badge there are legal ways to do it.

Jeff
 
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