rbernie
Contributing Member
Let's pretend for a bit:
"Hi, I'm Jacob A. Carlson; I work a office gig, and while I am not a blob I'm not particularly hard. I don't earn a living tussling, and I have no desire to tussle. I hate physical confrontations, and frankly I've got enough physical infirmities that tussling is largely out of the realm of possibility. I spend my waking hours working in an office or trying to be a Dad to my spawn. Somewhere along the way, I buy into the notion that a firearm provides a measure of defense against those who would predate against non-tusslers such as myself. In short, I have a firearm specifically because I don't like to tussle and I don't have the time/inclincation/physical capability to become Chuck Norris. I'd rather run than fight, but I'm not about to become chum if I'm backed against a wall."
Now, Ezekiel - is this a "Gun Mentality"? Is it immoral to live such an existance? Is it wrong for someone to carry a firearm who is NOT skilled in physical combat? Do I have to get, say, a brown belt in Taekwondo before I become eligible to carry?
Gimme a break. There are so many presumptions in your arguments vis-a-vis the shooters thoughts, skills, and tools that it boggles the mind. Which gets me right back to my initial comments: "And you intuited the shooters intentions and desires, based on, um, exactly what? You replied:
Sigh.
"Hi, I'm Jacob A. Carlson; I work a office gig, and while I am not a blob I'm not particularly hard. I don't earn a living tussling, and I have no desire to tussle. I hate physical confrontations, and frankly I've got enough physical infirmities that tussling is largely out of the realm of possibility. I spend my waking hours working in an office or trying to be a Dad to my spawn. Somewhere along the way, I buy into the notion that a firearm provides a measure of defense against those who would predate against non-tusslers such as myself. In short, I have a firearm specifically because I don't like to tussle and I don't have the time/inclincation/physical capability to become Chuck Norris. I'd rather run than fight, but I'm not about to become chum if I'm backed against a wall."
Now, Ezekiel - is this a "Gun Mentality"? Is it immoral to live such an existance? Is it wrong for someone to carry a firearm who is NOT skilled in physical combat? Do I have to get, say, a brown belt in Taekwondo before I become eligible to carry?
Gimme a break. There are so many presumptions in your arguments vis-a-vis the shooters thoughts, skills, and tools that it boggles the mind. Which gets me right back to my initial comments: "And you intuited the shooters intentions and desires, based on, um, exactly what? You replied:
In your opinion. You don't know that, but there is certainly room for speculation that he did NOT have many options given his physical status.The fact that he pulled a trigger with a ton of other options.
A verbalization no different that 'stop or I'll shoot". You're creating a straw man around a verbalization that, given what we know, has no context.The fact that he said he was going to (active, present tense) kill.
Presumed.The -- presumed -- fact of inebriation, discounting his ability to legally wield, use or make rational judgments regarding the use of a firarm.
Sigh.