CCW holders. Would you protect a stranger...

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scary story..

really, when you think about it, you really have to behave not to think about doing violent things to certain people, like those cops, the prosecutor, etc...
 
This idea that one must either get physically involved or else be a coward is nonsense. Mindset, skillset, toolset. Use the first and you may not need anything else.
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Bravo!

Well said, and well worth repeating.
 
This idea that one must either get physically involved or else be a coward is nonsense. Mindset, skillset, toolset. Use the first and you may not need anything else.
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Yeah I like that too. I'm gonna copy that down.
 
I guess what the instructors say is true. You *DO* need to change your behavior and thinking when you carry a firearm.
 
The question comes up often here - and usually ends in thread-lock after the "mind-your-own-business" contingent and the "do-the-right-and-noble-thing" crowd duke it out for a while.

The tale that is given as the example this time around smells fishier than a bag of shrimp tails sitting in the sun for three days.
 
Anybody remember the Golden Rule?

Would you want someone to come to your aid if you were being viciously attacked?
 
Anybody remember the Golden Rule?

Would you want someone to come to your aid if you were being viciously attacked?
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"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you," might be applicable if the judge, jury, prosecuter,... goverened themselves by the same precepts and principles as the Golden Rule. Unfortunately there aren't many Solomon's sitting on the benches of jurisprudence these days.

Oh, I might also add if I'm attacked, I'm ready.
 
There's no "Yes" or "No" answer to this. The best you could do is come up with a situation, and see how folks will react.

I always have a flashlight on me. I'd shine the light on the fight/stabbing in progress to draw others' attention to it before I even thought of separating the fight.
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Same here. Always have a G2, spare batteries in my locker, a box in my car, another in my truck...

Its known as the "flare gun" at work.

Here's some light reading for you that think otherwise.

http://www.stoppingpower.net/commentary/comm_dangers_in_intervention.asp

It amazes me how so many people that would otherwise be rational and have the ability to engage in critical thinking become "instinctive and reactive" once they start carrying a gun. Carrying a gun is a "thinking" persons game, because it ain't no game.

If you want to save the world go join Greenpeace or somethin'.

BikerRN
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You know, if I had time to think, I would probably just be a good witness, as I have done in the past.

However, I have also intervened (didn't think, reacted instead), and (thankfully) have no regrets about doing so.

I agree with a lot of the statements in that link. However, I also disagree, depending on the situation.
 
My BS ometer hits about a 9.95 out of 10 on this story. I've had a pretty nasty concussion and I couldn't tell you what the heck really happened in the next 24 hours. I was off in Lalaland thought everyone was trying to give me a math test according to the folks that were around.

If this story is for some reason true several LEO's paramedics, and nurses should be jobless for incompetence and the key people should get some time in their own facility. --Once again I call BS.
 
I would not say to never come to the aid of a stranger. But be careful. Things are not always as they seem. Very definitely, stay out of other peoples' mutual combat situations.
 
in my state, it is ilegal to bring a ccw to a bar in the first place. plus, i do not go to bars anymore. so i would not have been in that situation anyway.
 
Would you protect a stranger you knew to be innocent from a mob of people?
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My personal rule is that I will protect people I know and/or care about. That's it.

A man who does not help in the face of danger is a coward.
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I teach CCW, and there's always somebody in class that thinks this way.

A CCW does NOT come with a cape! Put down the comic books and step away slowly.

A quote from Martin Luther ((((that I have never been able to verify for sure.

"Not only do I have the right to defend myself, I have a duty to protect others."

I agree with him.
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Having a CCW Doesn't make you Spider-Man, and it doesn't make you a Cop. Getting involved in ANY situation that doesn't directly involve you in the first place is a VERY bad idea, and the article in the Original Post is yet more proof of that.

From both a Legal and a Strategic standpoint, it's not a good idea.

Morally, ethically? That's up to you to decide. You've got to look at yourself in the mirror every day, and I understand that, but if you're not careful, you'll end up looking into a polished stainless steel mirror, wearing a bright orange jumpsuit.

Wes
 
I read that whole article in the link. Sounds like a wonderful piece of fiction.
 
I would have helped and have, many times. The instant I was tossed out and unable to get in, I would have called the police with my cell phone. Because I live in VA, I would have been unarmed or open carrying and not drinking (I am the default Designated Driver anyway as I don't drink). My car would have been close as I am disabled. There WILL be a gun in there. I would have probably been in my car with my gun by the time a crowed gathered and seeing them come, I would have closed and locked the doors. IF they tried to break in and drag me out, THEN I would draw my gun and again hit the cell phone.
 
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