jiminhobesound
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What is the law regarding CCW, in your state, with a round in the chamber? Is it different for revolvers and pistols?
CCW with one in the chamber?
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NavyLCDR
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There is no state that allows CCW that prohibits the gun from being loaded.
There are several states that require a gun being transported by non-permit holders to transport the gun unloaded, but that could hardly be considered CCW.
There are several states that require a gun being transported by non-permit holders to transport the gun unloaded, but that could hardly be considered CCW.
Buck Snort
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I'm anticipating receiving my CCW soon and you can bet your next paycheck I'll be pack'n one in the tube. 
With any luck it'll never be fired at another human being but if that's necessary I want to be ready to start defending myself ASAP.
With any luck it'll never be fired at another human being but if that's necessary I want to be ready to start defending myself ASAP.I have never heard of a law that required you NOT to have a round in the chamber. Very few people do carry without one in the chamber. Although there are some.
Most folks who carry 1911's go with - condition one. Cocked and locked. - Meaning one in the chamber ready to go with the hammer back and the safety on.
A law like that would not be very useful from a safety point of view. Bad guys are not going to wait for you to load up.
Most folks who carry 1911's go with - condition one. Cocked and locked. - Meaning one in the chamber ready to go with the hammer back and the safety on.
A law like that would not be very useful from a safety point of view. Bad guys are not going to wait for you to load up.
sappnasty
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I do not know of any such law in any state that allows CC. I would say that a concealed weapon would be completely useless without one in the chamber. Here's how it could go lol...."Excuse me sir, would you stop robbing me for one second? I need to chamber a round so that I can shoot you, thanks.". I am not an expert on every state's laws...I would say if you are in doubt, read.
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. I am not an expert on every state's laws...I would say if you are in doubt, read.Sapp
MedWheeler
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As has been said, there are no requirements that an otherwise-lawfully-carried gun with a loaded magazine have an empty chamber. As an aside, though, I believe the US Army still requires its MPs, while on base, to carry as such, and the Air Police (USAF) actually carried without a magazine inserted, or so I've heard. Anyone able to verify?
Cmiller21b
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While on Kadahar Airfield in Afghanistan last year, the policy there was no mag inserted in the pistol unless going outside the wire or the FOB was under attack. And that was probobly a good policy! You have thousands of troops carrying handguns and a lot of them have never seen one until the joined the service, The military give all kinds of instruction for rifles, but on the whole, very little for handguns. We had an incident when one of our combat engineers shot another one in the leg while he was messing with his M-9! They were going out on patrol. We still dont know why he had the weapon out of the holster. He went home 2 ranks lighter. It could have been very bad. Still, when I carry, I have one in the chamber! Not much good without it. A good stick would be a better choice.
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But the military applies idiotic rules as to what level of defense one uses most of the time on bases.
When I was in the Army, we did post guard at times, as I'm sure most vets here have done. I was stationed at Fort Campbell, KY, and guard posts were scattered across the entire base. When we stood guard duty at the helicopter field, we were issued a billy club and a whistle. When we guarded old ammo bunkers out in the rear area, filled with bunk springs and frames, we carried a M-16 and a fully loaded magazine of ammo. And were told to have one chambered with the safety on. Go figure!
When I was in the Army, we did post guard at times, as I'm sure most vets here have done. I was stationed at Fort Campbell, KY, and guard posts were scattered across the entire base. When we stood guard duty at the helicopter field, we were issued a billy club and a whistle. When we guarded old ammo bunkers out in the rear area, filled with bunk springs and frames, we carried a M-16 and a fully loaded magazine of ammo. And were told to have one chambered with the safety on. Go figure!
NavyLCDR
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MedWheeler said:
Actually, Utah does have such a law - but it only applies to those open carrying a firearm without a permit.
AirForceShooter
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Were those the Chrome/Nickel ones with the stag grips?
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Were those the Chrome/Nickel ones with the stag grips?
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The Lone Haranguer
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AFAIK state laws are at least silent on the issue, neither specifically proscribing, nor mandating, loaded chamber carry. I think it is assumed that a defensive sidearm is going to be loaded and the question never even came up. You will have to find some other excuse for not loading your chamber.
You will have to find some other excuse for not loading your chamber.
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I'm sorry but I don't consider this to be a legitimate question.
If a gun is being carried for self-defense then naturally it will be fully loaded. I am not aware of any laws forbidding carrying a fully loaded gun by a properly licensed individual.
Some state laws hold that a gun with an empty chamber may be carried without a permit as it is considered unloaded. But this only applies in a couple of states unfriendly to guns in general.
If a gun is being carried for self-defense then naturally it will be fully loaded. I am not aware of any laws forbidding carrying a fully loaded gun by a properly licensed individual.
Some state laws hold that a gun with an empty chamber may be carried without a permit as it is considered unloaded. But this only applies in a couple of states unfriendly to guns in general.
Deanimator
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There's no such law in Ohio.
I would NEVER carry a defensive firearm with an empty chamber.
I would NEVER carry a defensive firearm with an empty chamber.
TexasRifleman
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I'm with most of the others, an unloaded gun isn't really a gun.
My state allows for carry with one chambered.
I'm not aware of any states that allow concealed carry but not loaded.
Oh it's a legit question. Sad thing is that it's the result of so many confusing gun laws. That someone feels they have to ask this question just tells you what a mess states have made with all the myriad of gun laws out there. Even simple things make you say "well maybe not..."
Better ask for sure.
My state allows for carry with one chambered.
I'm not aware of any states that allow concealed carry but not loaded.
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Oh it's a legit question. Sad thing is that it's the result of so many confusing gun laws. That someone feels they have to ask this question just tells you what a mess states have made with all the myriad of gun laws out there. Even simple things make you say "well maybe not..."
Better ask for sure.
I was a rear echelon type in Vietnam. On day, I was on a detail to guard the parking lot at at a USO in a nearby town, i.e. outside the wire. We were specifically instructed not to have a magazine in our rifles. Mostly, the problem was kids stealing stuff, like tires, from the vehicles.
More than one of the guys who came in from the field told me not to be an idiot and load the damn rifle.
geekWithA.45
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AFAIK, there's only one place that requires the gun you carry to be in an inoperative state: California's weird unloaded open carry law.
Anywhere else, lawful carriage includes fully loaded, and there's nowhere outside of CA that carrying unloaded makes it lawful.
I'm not a lawyer, gun laws change all the time, blah blah freakin' blah.
Anywhere else, lawful carriage includes fully loaded, and there's nowhere outside of CA that carrying unloaded makes it lawful.
I'm not a lawyer, gun laws change all the time, blah blah freakin' blah.
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