And now I'm encouraged again---thanks very much for this info! I only changed the info on my driver's license in the first place because, once I found out my true height at the doctor's and triple-checked it at home, I felt I needed to correct the record. It was only afterwards that the thought occurred to me about how this could affect future gun purchases of mine. That scared the heck out of me, hence my post here, and I so appreciate all the replies from my fellow THR members.
Change in Personal Info: Possible NICS Issue?
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Thanks so much, CapnMac, for the info and and the kind welcome. I really do feel a lot better about everything now.Point of Contact (POC) states comply with their State Bureaus of Investigation/State Police rules for information.
Federal NICS info is much more limited than the 4473 info collected.
The NICS info only has to be the same as is on the Prohibited Person list that NICS actually is. And it's only retained--as our esteemed @dogtown tom points out above--for the length of the check.
If curious, the number of checks can be found tabulated here: https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/nics_firearm_checks_-_day_month_year.pdf/view
So, for 01 September of this year there were 88,568 checks performed. While storing data is cheap, it's not unlimited.
Well, Welcome to THR, again
dogtown tom
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You live in New Hampshire, a POC state.
Every call to FBI NICS will have the CSR asking for height and weight.
I would offer that the OP "might" want the info his Fed4473 and
his State paperwork to actually match his Driver's License info.
Just a thought . . .
Yes - that would be the best thing to do.
I probably should've mentioned that as well. I wouldn't expect any issues with the background check though, as long as your 4473 matches your corrected DL.
Changing your height on your DL is like changing your address on your DL = not a big deal.
@dogtown tom - Thanks for the clarification!
Thanks for posting about NICS eCheck as everyone else has only referenced calling NICS.Huh?
For the last fifteen years I've been calling NICS or using NICS eCheck, height, weight, ethnicity have been required. It's not optional information.
You can't even click "submit" on eCheck without giving that information.
With eCheck the weight/height info is there to be scrutinized/questioned/challenged.
The use of eCheck is what motivated me to get my state Enhanced Concealed Weapons License, with that my 4473 form is never called-in, electronically filed, or leaves the FFL in any way.
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Carl N. Brown
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I go by my weight naked and my height barefoot.
Can you please clarify "scrutinized/questioned/challenged"? How would they know info as granular as weight and height if, as previous forumers have said, info used from previous 4473's have not been retained by the gov't and, in my case, I have no criminal record whatsoever and I dutifully reported my correct height to the DMV soon after learning it? Thanks.
FWIW, and at the risk of providing TMI, so do I.
herrwalther
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Highly highly highly doubt it. NICS stresses other information that is much harder to change like birth date. Resident address (or have lived). Social Security number. Name. Your height off by a few inches or weight off by a few pounds is lower down the list on prohibited person check compared to the rest. DMV employees are more likely to ask you for your height and weight than whip out a scale and measuring tape. So you can be pretty far off in your self reported information before anyone at the FBI (or otherwise) cares.
I don't regularly use the scale in my house. Can't find it most of the time. My license says 190. I write 200 on my 4473 forms. I am still above either weights based on what the scale says from my last doctors appointment over a year ago. Never been a problem for me.
I don't regularly use the scale in my house. Can't find it most of the time. My license says 190. I write 200 on my 4473 forms. I am still above either weights based on what the scale says from my last doctors appointment over a year ago. Never been a problem for me.
Robbins290
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I been up and down 50 lbs over the years, I put what ever weight i am currently at. in one year, after 2 surgery's. i went from 160 to 205 in one year, I had those 2 weights with in a 9 month window on the NICS. So i do not think its critical.
Wow, how quickly you have been educated by other "forumers".
"Info used from previous 4473's have not been retained by the gov't."... um, and how do you know that?
Oh wait, you just read that on the internet.
so, nevermind,
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I came back here to post this vid about ATF "data bases", where the ATF Director states: "many ATF employees are spending 8 hours a day straightening unfolding/removing staples from 4473 forms so they can be photo-copied to create a data base."
ATF Director ADMITS to Having Illegal Registry
ATF Director Steve Dettelbach spoke at Harvard and admitted the ATF has a registry. Tip Jar! https://streamelements.com/libertydoll/tipJoin this channel:http...
www.youtube.com
So yeh, "not retained."
Other Liberty Doll vids:
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dogtown tom
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I came back here to post this vid about ATF "data bases", where the ATF Director states: "many ATF employees are spending 8 hours a day straightening unfolding/removing staples from 4473 forms so they can be photo-copied to create a data base."
Watch it from the beginning.ATF Director ADMITS to Having Illegal Registry
ATF Director Steve Dettelbach spoke at Harvard and admitted the ATF has a registry. Tip Jar! https://streamelements.com/libertydoll/tipJoin this channel:http...
So yeh, "not retained."
Other Liberty Doll vids:
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Yeah, we covered that awesome video in this thread: Post #11 explains Why Liberty Doll and Dettlebach aren't real bright.
Thanks for the link.
Different context here though, and Vid is words spoken by the ATF director.
From his mouth to my ears, so hard to dismiss as Liberty Doll not being real bright.
Posted here for the OP's benefit, not your critique...
jmo,
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