Check out this "Model 10"

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I almost bought one last year, for a similar price, under similar circumstances, except neither of us knew what it was. It was on a local board, and he was selling it as a Model 10 for $350. I hadn't seen photos and offered $275, thinking it was a 10. When I got pics, I didn't know what it was, but it sure wasn't a 10. After some research, the price doubled.
 
Nice old shooter there!


I saw what was tagged as a model 10 in a gun/pawn shop case once. I looked at it, and commented that it wasn't a model 10. They said they were making their money, no problem, so I bought it. It was priced at $185 (in the 80's). It was a 38-44 heavy duty, 5", with special order adjustable rear sight (the one that's fitted very low and cleanly into the top strap), and a special order ivory bead front sight. I took it to another shop, owned by a friend that collected Smiths. His eyes lit up! He had a case of the "Wants"! It had a little holster wear, which he didn't tend to buy for his collection, but with the special order features, he was willing to overlook the minor wear. He traded me a new 586 in a 6" (when they were a new model), a holster, cartridge belt, and a box of shells.

I still think he got the best end of the deal, and regret trading it off.
 
my first 38/44 HD was mislabled as a model 19 in a gun store. got it for $350 about 7 years ago. my outdoorsman was mislabled as a 28 in another store about the same time 7-8 years ago. poached it for $200

you never know what your gonna find but you got to keep your eye out. if it was a little old lady selling it i would advise her what it was and its worth. but a gun dealer running a store ? not my problem

nice score
 
a gun dealer running a store ? not my problem

while I understand the concept, an expert is supposed to show expertise, I would argue otherwise. If you think it is "hosing" of the old lady it is "hosing" the store too.

In this case, I committed by hitting the "buy it now" and sent him my FFL and CC#. Then we talked. He seller decided that he was making good money. After all, he took it as a model 10 and $400 is a premium.
 
Well then I have no problem "hosing" most gun shops. Used to work at one, know what they pay for guns. I know they "hosed" whatever individual they bought it from so I do not feel inclined to correct their mistake and increase their profits exponentially. That said, I have developed a very good relationship with my local shop here in Savannah and thus, would not do anything to jeopardize that.
 
While I understand your position, "hosing" is "hosing".

To me...it is not about them.

Am I the guy that "hoses" people or not?

BTW, the other side of the argument is "they set the price, I agreed to it...therefore it is not "hosing' to say "I'll take it"".

I would counter that if you walked onto the sales floor of a Chevy dealer and the Z06 had a misprinted sales label, you wouldn't expect them to sell it for that.
 
I would counter that if you walked onto the sales floor of a Chevy dealer and the Z06 had a misprinted sales label, you wouldn't expect them to sell it for that.
That's kinda different, it's not like the dealer hosed GM out of Z06. I wouldn't reward the dealer for hosing the little old lady they bought the gun from with even more profit. You know for a fact that they're not gonna contact the little old lady and give her more money.

Like I said, I have no problem "hosing" the hoser. I stand by what I said before and whatever moral implications result.
 
I understand

To me, the chain of possession doesn't matter.

Robbing a robber is still robbery. I can only control my actions.

Not saying u r wrong
 
Robbing a robber is still robbery. I can only control my actions.
Yes but how does rewarding the robber with more loot fit in? ;)

The real victim here, if there even is one, is the person the dealer bought the gun from. But then you could also say that it pays to be an educated seller.
 
It was a "buy now" price.
I committed to buy it and then told him that it was misidentified and more valuable. That he didn't have to go through w it.

He said, in essence "I got mine...enjoy"
 
It was a "professional" selling a gun at an agreed on asking price. I would have bought it with no qualms at all. Guillermo did well.

The dealer who sold the gun made money, and is by all accounts is happy. The person who sold the gun to the dealer did not do so well. They should have researched it. But hey, they might be happy as well. If they bought it new, they probably made money as well, just not what they could have if they had researched things.

Guillermo should sleep like a baby over this. No foul here.
 
"It was a "professional" selling a gun at an agreed on asking price. I would have bought it with no qualms at all. Guillermo did well. "

This. +1000.

It's his job to know better. If I were in that spot I wouldn't even give as much as he did by talking it over with the guy.
 
You still waiting on that "bundle of joy" ? You did good G, those that wait and don't pull the trigger are the ones left wanting... such as the model 10 I hope to pick up next weekend!
 
Yessir, I get that, but will you work it out and share with the less fortunate that haven't experienced 38/44 but not for lack of interest? I think we can count on you.
 
Guillermo,

If you are a reloader, you need to load up a dozen rounds to Elmer Keith's specs with 2400 powder and 158 or 170 grain SWCs

Then you will appreciate what a great gun that ol HD really is. Otherwise, it just feels like a .38 cal squirt gun.;)
 
It ain't an M&P that's for sure!!!:evil:
You've got some purentee fun acomin'. Learn and enjoy:)

I have the adjustable sight version 1934 vintage Outdoorsman. It shoots like a rifle with the EK loads described above.
Outdoorsman-1.jpg
 
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Yes indeed. Nice find. I own a pre-war (mfd. 1937) Heavy Duty with the 5" barrel. Very nice revolvers.
 

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