Cheney shoots hunting buddy (multiple threads merged)
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Lobotomy Boy
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I gotta say that if the choice was between getting shot and getting a BJ from Bill or Dick, I'd still have to go with the BJ. Even Dick's cold fish lips would be better than bird shot in my heart.
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Lobotomy Boy said:
Ok, this thread deserves to be clubbed like a PETA protected baby seal..... or maybe just locked.
*big-ass shudder*
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This discussion isn't even half as disgusting as the mind set of some self-righteous hypocrites foolish enough to compare an intimate act between two consenting adults with shooting a man.
I'll tell you about the only "sanctity of marriage" that should matter to me: what goes on between me and my wife. In my book anyone who gets their boomers in a bunch over the intimate acts of other people are the real perverts.
BTW, even though I have remained totally faithful to my wife for the 17+ years we've been married, I think she'd understand if I had to let Dick pleasure in order to avoid being shot with a shotgun. She's visited me in enough emergency rooms when I was racing motorcycles.
I'll tell you about the only "sanctity of marriage" that should matter to me: what goes on between me and my wife. In my book anyone who gets their boomers in a bunch over the intimate acts of other people are the real perverts.
BTW, even though I have remained totally faithful to my wife for the 17+ years we've been married, I think she'd understand if I had to let Dick pleasure in order to avoid being shot with a shotgun. She's visited me in enough emergency rooms when I was racing motorcycles.
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Lobotomy Boy,
Please consider whether your resentment at the Monica scandal might be blinding you. Having come of age during the Clinton administration, and now witnessing the fear, hatred and distrust aimed at Bush, I am willing to concede that I may have been too harsh on Clinton myself. For the sake of argument, let's agree that Clinton's sexual indiscretions should have been ignored, the way past White House philandering probably has been. We are still left with the fact that a President took sexual advantage of a young woman in his office. A hunting accident doesn't even come close to that. One is a case of poor judgement while on his own time, the other were deliberate acts of sexual immorality, marital infidelity and abuse of power which took place in the White House itself. Everybody knows it, which is why the press, which despises Cheney, is more interested in going after phony charges of a "cover-up." And let's not forget that Cheney's resignation was demanded, by the chairman of the DNC, no less.
Even if the VP was drunk, you would think Wittington would have known that before he made the decision to keep hunting with him. So if Cheney wanted to sober up before he talked to the cops? Powerful politician gets away with minor indiscretion. Wouldn't be the first time. Still not as bad as Monicagate. Face it.
Please consider whether your resentment at the Monica scandal might be blinding you. Having come of age during the Clinton administration, and now witnessing the fear, hatred and distrust aimed at Bush, I am willing to concede that I may have been too harsh on Clinton myself. For the sake of argument, let's agree that Clinton's sexual indiscretions should have been ignored, the way past White House philandering probably has been. We are still left with the fact that a President took sexual advantage of a young woman in his office. A hunting accident doesn't even come close to that. One is a case of poor judgement while on his own time, the other were deliberate acts of sexual immorality, marital infidelity and abuse of power which took place in the White House itself. Everybody knows it, which is why the press, which despises Cheney, is more interested in going after phony charges of a "cover-up." And let's not forget that Cheney's resignation was demanded, by the chairman of the DNC, no less.
Even if the VP was drunk, you would think Wittington would have known that before he made the decision to keep hunting with him. So if Cheney wanted to sober up before he talked to the cops? Powerful politician gets away with minor indiscretion. Wouldn't be the first time. Still not as bad as Monicagate. Face it.
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Yes, Biker, of course. In the scheme of things, it would still be a minor thing for a highly placed politician. It's unfortunate, but people like that get away with all manner of things. Monicagate could also be considered minor, but it is still worse. I have edited my above statement to explain why.
I dunno, fistful. I figure that comparing the two events is pretty useless, apples and oranges so to speak, but to characterize the Veep shooting another man while drunk as a 'minor indescretion' is like calling Godzilla a lizard.
One of the most powerful men in the world showing judgement this poor is downright scary.
JMO, of course.
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One of the most powerful men in the world showing judgement this poor is downright scary.
JMO, of course.
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Biker, if you can find some land where people ambitious enough to get to the top won't abuse that power to some small degree, I'd sure like to know about it. I'd love to vote for a guy who wouldn't be tempted to conceal a political embarassment.
In any case, I don't think there's enough reason to conclude that Cheney was drunk. If it is the case that the cops were not let in early enough, there could be other reasonable explanations for this. That's my opinion, anyway, I could be wrong.
A little scary, I agree, but haven't a lot of people drunk too much while hunting? I don't know that many hunters myself, but I would imagine older hunters like Cheney aren't as careful. Probably, their dad's kept some hooch in the duck-blind. Times were different when Cheney was growing up. Human rulers are still human, so we ought to be a little skeptical of them all.
In any case, I don't think there's enough reason to conclude that Cheney was drunk. If it is the case that the cops were not let in early enough, there could be other reasonable explanations for this. That's my opinion, anyway, I could be wrong.
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#shooter said:
A. Liberals don’t seem to think that killing babies is immoral in the first place. Yet they lobby to protect the sacred lives’ of people convicted and sentenced to death for heinous murders.
B. Marriage is a religious institution. Of course the divorce rate would be higher for people of faith (Conservative Christians) since people of faith are the ones much more likely to enter into a religious institution. And before you say “what about Liberal Christians” far more Christians are Conservative than Liberal so Conservative Christians are represented much more in a random sample of the population.
C. How about some statistic of the number of cohabitations without marriage that end? Or even the number of serious committed relationships that end? I actually had a room mate that was a atheist. She was with a guy for 8 years without getting married because she didn’t want to enter into a religious institution. Incidentally, her relationship ended because her (also atheist) boyfriend was cheating on her.
D. Since when does the ending of a Marriage or any relationship have to be on some moral grounds? Yes infidelity is one cause of separations but there also a number of amoral causes as well like financial strain and irreconcilable differences.
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Oh, stick a fork in this one.
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Hijacked Thread
Okay, whose responsible for hijacking this thread? I don't want to read all 19 pages.
Clinton has NOTHING to do with this issue.
Okay, whose responsible for hijacking this thread? I don't want to read all 19 pages.
Clinton has NOTHING to do with this issue.
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