Chiappa Double badger?
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I had one for a little while. The accuracy wasn't that great; barrel regulation was terrible as well. The .22 barrel shot pretty well to the sights but the 410 was low and left about a foot at 25 yards best I remember. The shotgun barrel was bent, and after getting it somewhat straight it to shot mostly to point of aim. Overall, I was unimpressed with it and sold it not long after I got it. That was in 2019, so QC may have improved somewhat since then.
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So I'm looking at the same issues the old Savage's had. I was kind of hoping they might have a chance at a good product with technology being what it is now.
The new Savage's are too much plastic for my liking.
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The older Savage 22/.410 over/under is your best option IMHO.
Love the survival looks of the Badger & Double badger but I've not been impresses with what I've seen and read.
Hunted with my dad's old Savage .22/.410 as a kid and almost bought a new Savage over/under but ultimately just couldn't swallow the asking price.
Love the survival looks of the Badger & Double badger but I've not been impresses with what I've seen and read.
Hunted with my dad's old Savage .22/.410 as a kid and almost bought a new Savage over/under but ultimately just couldn't swallow the asking price.
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I'm considering getting the .22 Mag/.410 version soon, have had it on my list for a long time. I don't have a rifle or shotgun in either chambering and I figure that a combination gun would be interesting as I don't have one of those either. I like the looks of them, most combination guns made today are plastic and more plastic and I feel a combination gun should have traditional looks.
Price is a definite factor as well, the Savage 42 and Chiappa M6 Scout are $600 guns now and cheaply built. If older Savage 24's would fold in half I would consider them, but those older combination guns are all built like a sporting trap shotgun, not a survival gun, which is where the combination gun's niche is.
I don't expect the Double Badger to be a beacon of quality, but the impression I get from them is Chiappa knows what its purpose is for and builds them for that purpose, but also makes them look presentable because good looks sell and I do appreciate how they look.
Price is a definite factor as well, the Savage 42 and Chiappa M6 Scout are $600 guns now and cheaply built. If older Savage 24's would fold in half I would consider them, but those older combination guns are all built like a sporting trap shotgun, not a survival gun, which is where the combination gun's niche is.
I don't expect the Double Badger to be a beacon of quality, but the impression I get from them is Chiappa knows what its purpose is for and builds them for that purpose, but also makes them look presentable because good looks sell and I do appreciate how they look.
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I picked up a Springfield M6 and it's spot on. The sights seems good especially shooting 22lr. Trigger takes a little getting used to but once you do it's nice.
Dr T
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I have had a similar experience as gasmandave with the M6. But it is a funky trigger.
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The M6 may depend on who built it. As I recall, mine was from EAA.
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I got lucky, mine is a Springfield via CZ
I didn't get it. I came to the realization I have more guns than I want and am going to pare them down a bit. Before getting another.
It's bad when you go through your gun room and go. Oh I forgot I had this one...
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I have one that I picked up in 2022. Chambered in .22 mag/.410 with the idea to use the .410 with birdshot.
The .22 mag barrel is the most accurate .22 mag I own, but the only other platforms I own it in are Diamondback and Heritage revolvers (including that rough rider 16inch barrel with pistol grips) so that may not mean much. I do really like the sights however.
As for the .410 barrel, it patterns well enough for me with birdshot, and .410 Brenneke slugs out to 40 yards are just a few inches lower than the .22 mag. Essentially it is sighted for the .22 mag.
What I like best about it is how well it folds up for hiking, that you can fire both barrels at once with almost no increase in recoil, the sights are clear and quick, weighs just enough to eat up .410 recoil, and that it is only one gun in a BUG bag instead of two.
The .22 mag barrel is the most accurate .22 mag I own, but the only other platforms I own it in are Diamondback and Heritage revolvers (including that rough rider 16inch barrel with pistol grips) so that may not mean much. I do really like the sights however.
As for the .410 barrel, it patterns well enough for me with birdshot, and .410 Brenneke slugs out to 40 yards are just a few inches lower than the .22 mag. Essentially it is sighted for the .22 mag.
What I like best about it is how well it folds up for hiking, that you can fire both barrels at once with almost no increase in recoil, the sights are clear and quick, weighs just enough to eat up .410 recoil, and that it is only one gun in a BUG bag instead of two.
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Mine is on the way. Decided while I was getting it to also grab a Taurus GX4 since they have a $50 rebate on those right now and I wouldn't mind having a micro
To build on the post above, the .410 has so little shot I hardly think it can work well beyond 20 yards. I'm sure even a 12 or 20 ga with an open choke can throw a decent amount of shot on target at 25, but they are larger bores and have much more shot. .410 is limited, you have to work around those limitations to get the most effectiveness and that means shooting at closer distances.
Nobody has mentioned how well the pattern is with 000 Buck. I don't have any 3 inch, but I do have 3 and 4 pellet 2.5" so I will have to update this in a few weeks.
It is nice to hear that the sights are set for .22 Mag, I'd rather have the .410 barrel shoot a bit off the POA and use Kentucky Windage for shotshells than I would a bullet from a rifle.
To build on the post above, the .410 has so little shot I hardly think it can work well beyond 20 yards. I'm sure even a 12 or 20 ga with an open choke can throw a decent amount of shot on target at 25, but they are larger bores and have much more shot. .410 is limited, you have to work around those limitations to get the most effectiveness and that means shooting at closer distances.
Nobody has mentioned how well the pattern is with 000 Buck. I don't have any 3 inch, but I do have 3 and 4 pellet 2.5" so I will have to update this in a few weeks.
It is nice to hear that the sights are set for .22 Mag, I'd rather have the .410 barrel shoot a bit off the POA and use Kentucky Windage for shotshells than I would a bullet from a rifle.
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Picked mine up last week, gave it a look over, opening and closing was TIGHT, but after a few attempts it loosened up enough to not be a bear to work. Internal hammers cock when the lever is thrown, so there is some amount of double strike capability in the event the first whack does set the rimfire primer off.
Positives
+Wood to metal fit looks fine and I have to give Chiappa some credit on the wood, this is a good looking and well finished wood.
+Bluing also looks good, action lockup it tight, not that it's critical given this is a .22/.410 combo.
+Triggers feel okay, bit heavy, nothing spectacular, but the breaks are crisp and I'd rather have a heavier trigger with a crisp break than a lighter trigger that's spongy.
+The Double Badger fits inside the largest pistol case that MidwayUSA makes. I bought that case to get the free shipping years ago and it was so large I haven't found anything that could use it until now, so I'm happy about that.
This is neither a positive or a negative to me, but the Double Badger that I have has ejectors, which surprised me as I was expecting them to be just extractors/lifters. I'm not sure if all Double Badgers come with ejectors or just the .22/.410 models and I don't know if they have always come with ejectors or if this is a recent change or upgrade. I have plans to use chamber adapters with the .22 Mag and .410, so now I'll have to keep that in mind when using them.
Downsides
-Triggers and lever are MIM. The lever has a rough cast textured finish, which is fine, helps add some traction when working it.
-The lever's fit and throw feel cheesy, I can wiggle the lever with ease.
-The tang of the lever protrudes so much that when the Double Badger is folded it is what contacts the forend first. During shipping when the gun is folded the tang damages the wood. I'm not too upset by that because now that I know what's going on I'm going to take a dremel and remove some wood from the forend where the tang is contacting. This will allow a little more room for it to fold.
-Because the lever's throw cocks the hammers and also unlocks the action I can't store the gun folded and uncocked without having to dry fire with the action open. I don't like doing that and if I had rounds loaded and the gun folded I would have to cock the hammers before closing the action to fire because the firing pins are exposed.
IDK if leaving the hammers cocked for long periods is good or not with this, the user manual doesn't say and it mostly focuses on the Little Badger. The manual also doesn't specify whether it should be stored folded or closed.
I haven't shot it yet. Will update when I do.
Positives
+Wood to metal fit looks fine and I have to give Chiappa some credit on the wood, this is a good looking and well finished wood.
+Bluing also looks good, action lockup it tight, not that it's critical given this is a .22/.410 combo.
+Triggers feel okay, bit heavy, nothing spectacular, but the breaks are crisp and I'd rather have a heavier trigger with a crisp break than a lighter trigger that's spongy.
+The Double Badger fits inside the largest pistol case that MidwayUSA makes. I bought that case to get the free shipping years ago and it was so large I haven't found anything that could use it until now, so I'm happy about that.
This is neither a positive or a negative to me, but the Double Badger that I have has ejectors, which surprised me as I was expecting them to be just extractors/lifters. I'm not sure if all Double Badgers come with ejectors or just the .22/.410 models and I don't know if they have always come with ejectors or if this is a recent change or upgrade. I have plans to use chamber adapters with the .22 Mag and .410, so now I'll have to keep that in mind when using them.
Downsides
-Triggers and lever are MIM. The lever has a rough cast textured finish, which is fine, helps add some traction when working it.
-The lever's fit and throw feel cheesy, I can wiggle the lever with ease.
-The tang of the lever protrudes so much that when the Double Badger is folded it is what contacts the forend first. During shipping when the gun is folded the tang damages the wood. I'm not too upset by that because now that I know what's going on I'm going to take a dremel and remove some wood from the forend where the tang is contacting. This will allow a little more room for it to fold.
-Because the lever's throw cocks the hammers and also unlocks the action I can't store the gun folded and uncocked without having to dry fire with the action open. I don't like doing that and if I had rounds loaded and the gun folded I would have to cock the hammers before closing the action to fire because the firing pins are exposed.
IDK if leaving the hammers cocked for long periods is good or not with this, the user manual doesn't say and it mostly focuses on the Little Badger. The manual also doesn't specify whether it should be stored folded or closed.
I haven't shot it yet. Will update when I do.
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