CMP 1911's another snag ...

[ford8nr]

Just got this from the CMP. It's gonna be a while ...


Status of the CMP 1911s, 1/29/2018:
The CMP has been authorized to receive 8,000 1911 type pistols from the United States Army.
The 1911s have been received by the CMP. A complete inventory will be conducted over the course of this week. The pistols will then be securely stored until the Army-approved 1911 building and armory infrastructure is completed. That completion is anticipated to be approximately 60 days from now. Once the 1911 armory is completed, inspection, grading, repair, and ultimately test firing of the pistols will begin. (Please be aware that the CMP was led to believe that we were ready to move forward, but three weeks ago facility requirements were changed, and we are now fulfilling those requirements.)
The CMP 1911 order packet will be posted 90 days prior to the order acceptance date and opening sales date. No orders will be accepted prior to that date. Please visit www.thecmp.org, click on the Sales icon then 1911 Information, for the latest. CMP customer service has been inundated with calls and emails concerning the 1911s and no further information is available at this time.
The CMP will keep everyone posted as we move through this process.

Mark Johnson
Chief Operating Officer
Civilian Marksmanship Program

 

[reddog81]

Looks like it will be at least another 6 months. Anyone whose been following these has been waiting for years so i'm not surprised.

On a positive note the email confirms that the CMP has received 8,000 pistols. It is only a matter of time before they go up for sale.

I wonder why they only received 8,000? I thought they could get 10,000 per year...

 

[CoalTrain49]

I think the bill that was voted on and passed by congress stipulated 8000 the first year. Who knows why, I certainly don't.

 

[maxxhavoc]

Just be ready if you want to go for one. On the last carbine release, they got more than 7k emails in one day if I remember correctly...they had about 1,200 carbines available. The 1911's will be much more in demand. I am assuming they will be sold out in the first day they go on sale in year 1.

So if you want one, when they announce the order date, make sure you can get an envelope to them on that day. Make sure your paperwork is in and correct before then. If they sell out, the orders that arrive before or after that day are just ignored.

 

[Tirod]

Yes, they have to put the 1911's into a different building. Likely to ensure security so none walk out.

Yes, these won't sell out in one day. Not hardly. You have to mail in a complete new paper package to compete for a bidding position. If you are selected, you draw a number by lottery which determines when you can purchase whatever is on the shelf. Background checks will be performed on receipt of your paperwork and again when you are allowed to choose ONLINE. NO FTF sales at the CMP, nobody walks out with a gun. It will be mailed to a FFL of your choice, copy of his license with original signature required in the package, where he will receive it and you get ANOTHER NICS check.

Pricing is market - go surf the auction boards for condition and value, the CMP is supposedly mirroring the same. And if you do get one? Please don't rob a gas station or liquor store. These guns are traceable to an extreme degree and there will likely be questions about who flipped it and who purchased it all the way to the crime scene.

It's not going to be like the Garands, nope, not at all. One a year and done. You buy what is on the shelf available, or thru the cherry picked ones put up for auction, and you get exactly what you see available during that window of opportunity. Kinda like a gunshow walking in with $1200 dollars and if you don't see what you want, sorry.

If I wanted a 1911 that badly I'd just buy one off Gunbroker. Not on my bucket list this year.

 

[GBExpat]

... but Best Wishes and Best of Luck to those who are going to participate!

 

[Taroman]

That's a sale I will be missing.
As said, lots of luck to the lucky (?) participants.

 

[Riomouse911]

I'll pass on this CMP offering. I'd like a genuine Government issue one to go with the Garand and M-1 Carbine, but it's not worth the hassle or the cost.

Good luck to those who are tossing their hats in the ring!

 

[280shooter]

I wanted one...but the price..and all the hoops... I'm not even going to try..i bet a paper weight conditions will bring 4-or 5 hundred.. I'll buy new colt.

 

[Jackal]

With the likely asking price of these, whats the point? Does anyone actually expect anything sub $1,000 region?

 

[Panzerschwein]

I wanted one...but the price..and all the hoops... I'm not even going to try..i bet a paper weight conditions will bring 4-or 5 hundred.. I'll buy new colt.

A new Colt won't have half the quality, or 1% the history of these old war heroes.

 

[JONWILL]

I think I posted this before.

The last batch of 1911's made for the military was 1945

They have been "Ridden hard and put away wet"

That was my experience of the ones we were issued

Very few are in original condition, most have been through an arsenal rebuild.

The good ones will probably go over 4k.

I think I will pass on them

 

[ford8nr]

They say market pricing.
If its like the Garands it'll still be a decent price compared to the gun shows if an original is what you're looking for.

No they are not giving them away, wouldn't expect them to. I'm not a collector and there are better 'shooters' out there for the money. But to each their own. If you want an original (rebuilt, not correct) this may be a chance to get one.

Don't understand all the heartburn.

 

[phil dirt]

To me personally, an arsenal rebuild is correct if the parts are all US military.

 

[CapnMac]

CMP sources expected the entry level price to be $800.

Now, all of these will be fine-tooth combed by CMP armorers, no random pawn shop specials. Function-tested, too.

No walk-in sales.

All sales by online order, all held until 10,000 orders are in, then the orders will be by lottery.

Two NICS checks, once by CMP, another at your receiving FFL.

As stated above, one-and-done.

 

[Nature Boy]

I think I posted this before.

The last batch of 1911's made for the military was 1945

They have been "Ridden hard and put away wet"

That was my experience of the ones we were issued

Very few are in original condition, most have been through an arsenal rebuild.

The good ones will probably go over 4k.

I think I will pass on them

That was my experience as well. Beat to death. However, the last one I had before the switch to the M9 was an exception. It wasn’t like new or anything, but it was solid and accurate, and I wouldn’t pay more that $500 for it even it was the same pistol.

Edit: well, maybe I would pay more. OK, I’d probably pay more, but I’m weak like that......

 

[Homerboy]

Beat to death for GI issue is one thing. But the CMP doesn’t sell beat to death. Even their rack grade m1’s are serviceable. CMP armorers will see to you in that.

Still, I’m not spending over a grand. Better things I can do with that money. Now, if more carbines come in, that’s another matter.

 

[rdmercer]

Two years ago I bought a Remington Rand that had no armorers approval stamp on it. I did a search on youtube and discovered I probably have a 'lunch box special' assembled from parts taken home in WW2 from the RR factory. I would like to have a CMP 1911 but my 'LB special' looks like it has had less than a hundred rnds thru it so I am happy. But good luck to those that receive a CMP 1911 veteran.

 

[CoalTrain49]

Now, all of these will be fine-tooth combed by CMP armorers, no random pawn shop specials. Function-tested, too.

That probably will be the extent of the testing. One mag with no FTF's. I don't think you will be able to return it if you aren't satisfied with the accuracy.

I bought an unfired Gov't model last year. It was a commercial model built in 1992 +/-. I paid $475 for it IIRC. Tight and well built. Shoots as well as my Gold Cup, maybe better. You don't have to pay $800 for a gov't model that shoots well. If you want a shooter there's lots of them out there. A war baby thats been thru the arsenal a few times (CMP included) isn't going to shoot as well as a newer commercial model, you can bet on it. Of course there may be a few but I'm thinking the odds aren't good.

I'm probably not a buyer of the CMP pistols because I shoot everything I own. I would probably be very disappointed all things considered.