Vern Humphrey
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They'd be damned fools to reappoint her -- but wait, you said they're Democrats, right?
CO State Senator Evie Hudak Resigns In Face of Recall
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Not specifically ruled out in the constitution, no idea about state laws on filling a vacancy.
As for why to keep collecting petitions? Want to make sure the recall is successful no matter what.
http://ballotpedia.org/Article_XXI,_Colorado_Constitution#Section_3
That seems very unusual, is the part after the semicolon only applicable if the person resigns after the 5 day period and election is scheduled?
omcf
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This state-specific recall has had national attention, albeit not a great deal. But am I the only one that has not heard much on this in the national media? Has anyone heard it even mentioned? On Fox, for example?
I appreciate they made the announcement right before the holiday for that very reason and all, it is just that I am under-whelmed by coverage of this win for the 2nd ammendment....
Why haven't larger outlets at least mentioned it?? I heard them talk about the previous 2 recalls, but not this one???
I appreciate they made the announcement right before the holiday for that very reason and all, it is just that I am under-whelmed by coverage of this win for the 2nd ammendment....
Why haven't larger outlets at least mentioned it?? I heard them talk about the previous 2 recalls, but not this one???
I remember a comment by Ritter when he was running for governor. When asked about his views on the second amendment, he said; "I support Coloradan's right to hunt and fish". That may not verbatim, I read it in the newspaper back then.
Ritter did everything he could to undermine our shall issue laws, and "Hickenritter" was stamped from the same mold.
The MSM were all over the Giron and Morse recalls, until they were successful...
Vern Humphrey
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As I read this, resignation does not halt the recall process and the appointee can hold office only until another candidate has been elected at the recall election.
coloradokevin said:
It would have been a loss if Hudak was able to keep her office. She didn't. She learned the price for not listening to her constituents and for shooting her mouth off at rape victims. So did everyone else in CO.
So far, you ladies and gents in CO have pulled off two recalls and forced one resignation. I'd rather that you didn't need to deal with this at all, but it could definitely be going worse.
danez71 said:
I also don't want to turn this into a political peeing match and I hope the mods will humor me just this one time in this thread.
Having said that, I agree with danez71.
The things I can't flex on are real freedoms. Gun ownership is one, but it's not the only one.
Bottom line - Let people live their lives in peace as they choose, as well or poorly armed as they choose to be, with whatever partner they choose, doing whatever they choose to do as long as they harm no one and don't violate anyone's rights. Just do that and you'll have my support.
That's all I have to say.
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Billll
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So two Thanksgiving turkeys: One on Wednesday, and one on Thursday.
It's how we hunt turkeys in these here parts.
It's how we hunt turkeys in these here parts.
It has to be chalked up as a 'win'. Let's not forget that the national media was all over the previous two recalls and they were all 'shocked' at the result. The gun control crowd worked overtime to spin the recalls as being a result of the NRA throwing money around, focused in on low voter turnout and tried to play the whole thing as a few extremists "stealing" the election.
...which means that in all likelihood the gun control folks would have tried to throw a lot more time/money/effort into the Hudak recall. It COULD have ended up in a failed recall.
Think about what message THAT would have sent to the gun control factions nationwide -- it would have basically validated the theory that the previous two recalls were flukes, or "stolen" elections, or whatever other moronic spin they've tried to put on them. It would have injected new life into the gun control movement smarting from the previous two recalls.
IMHO this has to be taken as a "victory", because the alternative could have been a massive defeat, both practically and psychologically. It may not change the balance of political power in the statehouse, nor does it repeal the laws that caused this whole issue in the first place...but it at least maintains important momentum AGAINST the losses of 2013.
...which means that in all likelihood the gun control folks would have tried to throw a lot more time/money/effort into the Hudak recall. It COULD have ended up in a failed recall.
Think about what message THAT would have sent to the gun control factions nationwide -- it would have basically validated the theory that the previous two recalls were flukes, or "stolen" elections, or whatever other moronic spin they've tried to put on them. It would have injected new life into the gun control movement smarting from the previous two recalls.
IMHO this has to be taken as a "victory", because the alternative could have been a massive defeat, both practically and psychologically. It may not change the balance of political power in the statehouse, nor does it repeal the laws that caused this whole issue in the first place...but it at least maintains important momentum AGAINST the losses of 2013.
clutch
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I don't live in Colorado but if it wasn't for THR, I wouldn't know EH resigned.
Good work Coloradans! Make 2014 count.
Good work Coloradans! Make 2014 count.
Deanimator
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Hudak resigning is like the Japanese pulling out of Kiska without a fight.
Yeah, we didn't get to wipe them out like on Attu, but they were no longer on U.S. soil.
Hudak was HUMILIATED for her support for gun control. There's simply no way around that.
Yeah, we didn't get to wipe them out like on Attu, but they were no longer on U.S. soil.
Hudak was HUMILIATED for her support for gun control. There's simply no way around that.
hotajax
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Yes, but in my understanding of CO law, when a politician resigns, the party with which she is affiliated gets to select the replacement. They can keep putting hacks in, and as long as the candidate resigns rather than loses an election
But they can be forced to continue to burn resources, including people, to try to stay ahead of the recalls. Call it a war of attrition, keeping in mind that they have been out spending the good guys something like 8 to 1.
According to filings this recall effort took in about 86k and spent ~48k.
do Committee search for Hudak
Vern Humphrey
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So they've got a leg up on recalling her replacement.
The replacement appointee route may be better. If you keep gun owners and the people who supported the recalls for other reasons angry, then there's more chance of them crawling out of the woodwork to destroy the opposition in the next real election.
Hate to say it, but maybe it's good to keep them at a low boil for now. An election that replaced Hudak with someone who'd support repealing CO's most recent gun control laws may have quenched more anger. As it is, that anger can still smolder and be rekindled in 2014.
Hate to say it, but maybe it's good to keep them at a low boil for now. An election that replaced Hudak with someone who'd support repealing CO's most recent gun control laws may have quenched more anger. As it is, that anger can still smolder and be rekindled in 2014.
Shanghai McCoy
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goon,
Your sentiments expressed in your "Bottom line" above are spot on Sir..!
Your sentiments expressed in your "Bottom line" above are spot on Sir..!
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Vern Humphrey
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Crooked politicians rely on the people having very short memories -- only if we stay mad through a couple of election cycles can we give them what they deserve.
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Ignition Override
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If more of Colorado's (or any states') anti-2nd Amendment "wannabes" try to win an election with Obamacare's very ill-conceived financial foundations crumbling even more in mid 2014, keep the temperature above idle EGT on all such anti-American candidates.
The most irrational anti-2nd Amendment people are almost always on "that" side of the aisle. But in stark contrast, they fight tenaciously when the First Amendment is under attack.
Strange? Maybe the First Amendment should also be weakened?
The most irrational anti-2nd Amendment people are almost always on "that" side of the aisle. But in stark contrast, they fight tenaciously when the First Amendment is under attack.
Strange? Maybe the First Amendment should also be weakened?
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locnload
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Her party is indeed not above a sneaky, slimy move, but I would hope they are starting to learn their lessons and see the light in the tunnel of the 2014 elections is a fast moving frieght train. That along with the party's blind support of Obamacare, may well send many of them to the unemployment office. We can always hope anyway.
From "Hope and Change" to "Hope it changes"
And now that she resigned, I so want to get one of those "Witch on a broom crashed into a tree", Halloween decorations in my front yard along with a "so long Senator Hudak" sign. I live on a main highway in Colorado and it would surely be seen by a lots of travelers.
From "Hope and Change" to "Hope it changes"
And now that she resigned, I so want to get one of those "Witch on a broom crashed into a tree", Halloween decorations in my front yard along with a "so long Senator Hudak" sign. I live on a main highway in Colorado and it would surely be seen by a lots of travelers.
Vern Humphrey
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Reminds me of an Arkansas Senator, Blanche Lincoln. She was a real Obamaite, and in the election of 2010, there were billboards in Arkansas with two words -- "Boot Blanche!"
And boot her we did!
And boot her we did!
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