Coach gun opinions Baikal or Rossi 12 gauge?

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So guys,

which one any real differences or considerations between the two from a choice standpoint? I plead the 5th with respect to sxs.

Thanks!

Dave
 
I suggest you look for a use Liberty Coach gun. I have one though they haven't been imported now for a decade by liberty they are available and the same gun now sold at much more by CZ. I have one with double hammer/triggers though mine it 24" barrels (only imported one year) I've seen a few in the $300 to $400 price range in 20" barrels. Excellent guns and CZ parts fit though I've never needed any.
 
i have the Baikal coach gun its made like a tank i payed $200.
bucks for it new 6 months ago i like it
 
I recently bought the Baikal/USSG with the internal hammers and OC/no chokes.

They show a coach with exposed hammers and removable chockes but I havent seen one available.

It looks like from the ones I see on gunbroker/gunsamerica that the Rossi has exposed hammers and IC/MC.
 
The Baikal is a piece of junk. I own a Rossi overland, and I had the unfortunate luck of having to fix an EAA Bounty Hunter Coach gun (Baikal). If either breaks, you will hate your life. The Rossi is a great gun but is no longer manufactured, which makes finding parts difficult and expensive. The gun has a nice finish, and is well made, but I have had issues with mine, mostly due to age and an amateurish repair done by a low rent gunsmith (not me, this was done when I was very young, and untrained).The Baikal rates low on fit and finish. If the Baikal breaks you have to deal with EAA (not pleasant) and steel so hard you can’t cut into it with anything short of a diamond bit and screws so tight you may think they are spot welds. The Baikal has an unnecessarily complex action, which is prone to failure, especially if abused, whereas the Rossi uses the greener cross bolt design with true external hammers. The barrels on the Baikal are usually designed to accept choke tubes, whereas the Rossi is improved cylinder on one side and modified on the other. Frankly I like the Rossi it is a well-made good looking gun, and I hate the Baikal. Hopefully you may find some part of this helpful. Good Luck!

Ooo, one peice of advice, see if you can "test drive" both before you buy.
 
after the last post i had to go and take a long look at my
Baikal yep it still looks good to me the action is tight the wood
looks good and the wood fits tight no gaps at all is it a top shelf
gun no but for $200.bucks it's a good buy i ran 300 rounds through
it and it goes bang each time best thing you can do is go to your gun shop
and look at a few but the one i got i like
 
Love my Biakal built Spartan 20 gauge coach gun. I dove hunt with it. It's internal hammers with interchangeable chokes and it is a very versatile gun. It's light, great upland gun, great hiking companion with a slug in one barrel if need be, great for home defense, but mostly it's one of my favorite upland guns and sits in the bedroom loaded hammers down. Those are internal hammers, yes, can be stored hammers down. It's perfectly safe to store that way as the hammers are rebounding. To store it this way, I made up some snap caps from empty rounds, decapped, shoe goo added to the primer hole. I snap it, pull the fore end off so the hammers won't cock when I break it open, load, reinstall the fore stock, and store. All I have to do to make it ready is break it open then close it, then kick the safety off.

Oh, I gave 300 for mine 5 or so years ago. I guess the hundred I paid more than LUCKYDAWG13's is for the "Remington" logo. :rolleyes: :D

Junk? I've used mine HARD since I got it dove hunting. I've put some number of cases through it in that time, love to pop those critters. I usually buy a case a year, so I'm guessing I've bought 5 for it, am almost out at the moment and dove season is coming soon. It's going fine so far.
 
Have a Baikal SXS in 20gauge and it might not look like much, but it's an absolute tank.

It doesn't fit me real well, but it gets the job done in the field and is currently my backup shotgun for upland hunts. I plan to wet my teeth refinishing wood on it since if I ruin it, it's still functional and was already ugly anyway.

I've been very pleased with it for the money I spent.
 
Thanks guys, awesome. Mcgunner brilliant solution!
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I can't take credit, learned it from someone else reading this board along with a lot of other points on shotguns. :D Just passing it along since it works.

It doesn't fit me real well, but it gets the job done in the field and is currently my backup shotgun for upland hunts. I plan to wet my teeth refinishing wood on it since if I ruin it, it's still functional and was already ugly anyway.
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One thing about having the wood kinda fit sloppy, there's room for shimming even though it's a SxS. I was able to remove all the right hand cast (important since I''m left handed). It's not far enough to be left hand cast, but it's neutral and I can deal with that. I also was able to add the drop that I need with straight shims from a spent shotgun shell's plastic. The fit is MUCH better now even if you can see a bit of gap and the shims if you look close. I really care more how it works for me and, as you say, it's not exactly beautiful unshimmed. :D

Another thing I learned to do on this board.
 
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Stoeger

I definitely wouldn't rule out stoeger. They are solid and easy to work on. I have had one for a while now. Put several hundred rounds through and finally decided to do some work to smoothen it up. I was a bit nervous at first, but after some drimmel work it smoothed up nicely.
 
I love my Baikal. I've gone skeet shooting with it about a dozen times (not much compared to real skeet shooters) but never had any issues and it's tight and accurate. I don't claim to be an expert on SxS but I just love my Baikals, I also have a .22LR semi-auto rifle that seems to do the job. Just my 2 cents.
 
mcgunner said:
One thing about having the wood kinda fit sloppy, there's room for shimming even though it's a SxS. I was able to remove all the right hand cast (important since I''m left handed). It's not far enough to be left hand cast, but it's neutral and I can deal with that. I also was able to add the drop that I need with straight shims from a spent shotgun shell's plastic. The fit is MUCH better now even if you can see a bit of gap and the shims if you look close. I really care more how it works for me and, as you say, it's not exactly beautiful unshimmed.

Another thing I learned to do on this board.
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Sweet. I'm a leftie too. I'm going to have a lot of fun with it. Getting it to a neutral cast would be helpful and shimming it would also help. It's a little on the small side. I was kinda hoping my wife would claim it, but she's not a fan of it because it's harder to open than her Red Label. :(
 
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