Deus Machina said:
My point was, that a DA/SA is designed to cut out the only mechanical item prone to user error under stress. Draw, pull the trigger. You don't have to worry about remembering to flip the safety off or rely on muscle memory that might, in an off chance, fail you under the adrenaline rush.
Why not simplify things even more, and go with a DAO version of your own gun? Using your rationale, above, DAO seems the most logical route for you to take -- and no transition to worry about. SIG has a DAK trigger that, properly tuned, is quite effective. I wonder why you didn't suggest those options?
Better yet, let's all go with a striker-fired gun, as that ought to be even more effective: the pull is the same with every shot, and it can be MUCH SHORTER than in a DAO gun. And, of course, there doesn't have to be a lever to worry about.
Wouldn't that be the best of all possible alternatives?
Deus Machina said:
My point of complaint--and why I said people should 'man up'--is that the grumbling about firearms with this system are that that DA pull is different. Well, yeah. That's the way the system works. If you want to carry it cocked and locked, go right on ahead, but just admit it's preference instead of blaming it on a feature of the design.
If they should MAN UP, and maybe you should open your eyes -- as you seem to be blind to the fact that there is a noticeable difference between the DA/SA trigger pulls, and that difference can affect outcomes.
As I've mentioned in other discussions on this forum -- having scored many targets as a range officer for MANY IDPA matches -- most folks who shoot DA/SA guns starting in DA mode generally have slightly larger groups with the first 2-3 shots than they'll have with the rest of the rounds in the magazine. You don't see that quite as often with folks shooting other designs -- but there are great shots in all of these groups.
Deus Machina said:
I don't complain because my car goes slower in first gear than second; I learn to shift and adjust.
False analogy. Using a SA gun is more like relying on an automatic transmission that doesn't require you to shift.
Deus Machina said:
If you want to carry it that way, that's your thing. Just call it a preference. If you learned with a single-action or have trained for it, by all means stick with what you know you can bet your life on. I prefer to take advantage of the method that I learned, have no trouble with, and doubt I'll notice the difference in when it comes down to it. Relying on a separate lever is less likely to work in my favor.
It IS a preference -- as is your choice. But you seem to be suggesting that your preference is better for everybody. Why?
You argue that relying on a separate lever is "less likely to work in my favor." Probably true, for you. And, by all means, you should do what works best for YOU. We should note, however, that what works best for you may not be what works best for everybody.
The CZ DA trigger pull IS long. I love CZs, but don't like the long DA pull. Some folks simply can't manage that long pull. It's a characteristic of the design, but other aspects of the design offset that drawback for some of us: superior ergonomics, for one thing. (I've heard more than one shooter say they like the ergonomics of the Baby Eagles, based on the CZ design, even better than the CZ. Could be.)
If you really prefer DA/SA, go for it.
I've got all sorts of guns, and enjoy all of them: Glocks, CZs/CZ clones. BHP, a SIG with a short-reset trigger (tuned by Gray Guns), and SIGs in SA only. I've had other guns, as well. I generally don't like the DA/SA transition -- as it seems to force me to take just a little longer for my second shot than my first one, as I know something is going to be different, and I compensate for it.
One of my favorite guns, right now, is a striker-fired M&P Pro that has a tuned trigger -- it seems the best all-round shooter I've got (even though I've got some guns that cost 2 - 3 times as much.)