Colt SAA help

Buy to Rope & Ride

  • $1200 Colt Montana

    Votes: 2 11.8%

  • $1500 Colt Samuel Special

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Don’t buy

    Votes: 9 52.9%

  • Both Guns cuz 2 is 1 & 1 is none

    Votes: 6 35.3%
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What do you guys think about Colt Quality in the 70’s. I recond these were make in the 70’s
 
I’m leaning towards the 2 tone built in 1964. If it’s still there next week (Vegas for a week) I’ll pick it up.

here a video on it

 
Howdy Again

As I said earlier, Commemorative Colts usually command less collector value than a non-commemorative Colt. Most serious collectors prefer standard Colts without the flashy stuff usually associated with the Commemoratives.

I do remember Mike Venturino stating in one of his books that he got a nice Commemorative for a good price, but it was not as flashy as these revolvers. I don't recall exactly what it was, but all it had was some gold or silver plating in the marking on the barrel declaring what Commemorative it was. He covered the shiny stuff with blue and at first glance nobody would know it was a Commemorative unless they looked close, but he got it for a very good price. Sorry, it was a long time ago and I don't recall what he paid for it.

It's your money. Personally I would not be interested in a barbecue gun like that, but if you want to tie it behind your truck and drag it through gravel for a few miles, more power to you.

I did a quick google search on Colonel Sam Colt Sesquicentennial and came up with a couple of hits from a well known auction house.

https://www.rockislandauction.com/d...-colt-sesquicentennial-commemorative-revolver

https://www.rockislandauction.com/d...-colt-sesquicentennial-commemorative-revolver
 
Mark_Mark said:
What do you guys think about Colt Quality in the 70’s. I recond these were make in the 70’s
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That depends. The 2nd Gen Colts were made from 1956 until 1975. Third Gen Colts were made from 1976 up until the present day.

I have a few 2nd Gens from 1963, 1968, and two from 1973. Quality of all four is excellent.

If 1964, that is definitely a 2nd Gen, and quality should also be excellent.
 
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Regarding the video about the $50,000 Colt by Jim Supica (one of the authors of The Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson) this is what he is referring to when he mentions the pinched frame rear sight. Only the very first Single Action Army revolvers had a rear sight like this.

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This is more typical of a 1st Gen rear sight, this happens to be on a Bisley Model that shipped in 1907.

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This is what a 2nd Gen rear sight looks like from the top.

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On the left in this photo is what the 2nd Gen rear sight looks like from the rear. The Uberti Cattleman on the right has a sight similar to what was on 1st Gen Colts. I find the nice square groove of the 2nd Gen rear sight much easier to use than the tiny V of a 1st Gen rear sight.

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Something to say about a flashy Colt Custom shop gun from the 60’s! Everything about that says “ME” and again, they will never be produced by hand like that again. My Uber diving money is really been better than expected. I might get both if they are still there. I have the money for 1 of them, and can get a second a few weeks after. And if serious Colt collectors like to pass on flashy Colts, maybe I can get a deal… who knows.
 
Driftwood Johnson said:
Regarding the video about the $50,000 Colt by Jim Supica (one of the authors of The Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson) this is what he is referring to when he mentions the pinched frame rear sight. Only the very first Single Action Army revolvers had a rear sight like this.

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This is more typical of a 1st Gen rear sight, this happens to be on a Bisley Model that shipped in 1907.

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This is what a 2nd Gen rear sight looks like from the top.

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On the left in this photo is what the 2nd Gen rear sight looks like from the rear. The Uberti Cattleman on the right has a sight similar to what was on 1st Gen Colts. I find the nice square groove of the 2nd Gen rear sight much easier to use than the tiny V of a 1st Gen rear sight.

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Small details make a huge difference in price. I really need to get in the mind of a collector with deep pockets who is willing to pay $50,000 for a 1st year SAA. These people interest me.
 
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Black cloud said:
If you can get a deal on them I would buy them and shoot them! I bought a new old stock colt signature series that never been fired, I shoot it often, I devalued it but oh well I'm having fun!
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I gotta get a Colt and shoot the turd out of it. If commemoration is my cheapest route! SOLD

can’t be a cowboy without having experience a real Colt
 
Mark_Mark said:
I gotta get a Colt and shoot the turd out of it. If commemoration is my cheapest route! SOLD

can’t be a cowboy without having experience a real Colt
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Can't be a cowboy without getting on a horse and riding for 16 hours a day chasing broken fences, lost cows, eating lots of dust, getting wet from rain, having a horse throw you, getting stomped, bit and kicked by a surley hayburner. All for minimum wages. Sound like fun?
 
Mark_Mark said:
Something to say about a flashy Colt Custom shop gun from the 60’s! Everything about that says “ME” and again, they will never be produced by hand like that again. My Uber diving money is really been better than expected. I might get both if they are still there. I have the money for 1 of them, and can get a second a few weeks after. And if serious Colt collectors like to pass on flashy Colts, maybe I can get a deal… who knows.
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If you buy both you can always switch out the gold parts to the other gun. Then you would have one normal gun and one barbeque or pimp gun (add some pearl grips).
 
Yeah I'd be tempted to buy both. It's only money.

My CZ Scorpion costed more than either of those Colts. I shoot the crap out of it.
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AlexanderA said:
A Montana commemorative sold at an RIA auction for $1,840. That was a higher-numbered one with the Pearlite grips, though.

This gun shop seems to know what it's doing, price wise.

Personally I would rather have a run-of-the-mill 2nd Generation, in equivalent condition, than a commemorative.
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Same here, but good luck finding one for $1200. OP wants a shooter and IMO the $1200 one could theoretically be a bargain for that purpose. I would avoid the silver cylinder one on general principle as I think they’re hideous.
 
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so, why people don’t like 3rd gen Colts?
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Because people are ignorant. Very early and late/recent third gens are objectively among the best SAA revolvers they’ve ever made. Particularly as shooters. They had some QC problems during the middle third gen years so you should check them out thoroughly as you should with any potential purchase.
 
1KPerDay said:
Same here, but good luck finding one for $1200. OP wants a shooter and IMO the $1200 one could theoretically be a bargain for that purpose. I would avoid the silver cylinder one on general principle as I think they’re hideous.
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I’m going to try for both! lol

it’s 1964 Colt Hideous… was not even a thing then!
 
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