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Thompson, 23, was indicted Monday on charges of aggravated murder, escape, resisting arrest, tampering with evidence and carrying a concealed weapon.
Doesn't sound like a legally armed CCW to me.
Thompson, 23, was indicted Monday on charges of aggravated murder, escape, resisting arrest, tampering with evidence and carrying a concealed weapon.
Doesn't sound like a legally armed CCW to me.
Although Thompson had a permit to carry a concealed weapon, he was charged with that crime because it's illegal to hold or use the weapon while stopped for a law enforcement reason, according to state law.
You guys need to stop acting like it's an affront to your manhood to be disarmed during a traffic stop.
CCW holders are no more or less safe to deal with then anyone else. You deal with individuals not a class.
That officer has no idea how you might react to the traffic citation he's about to write.
for the 10 thousand'th time...
If you are required by law to inform, do so with minimum fuss
"Officer I have a CCW permit"
If you are not required by law then keep your frickin' mouth SHUT unless asked a direct question or you are respectfully asking "Sir am I free to go now?"
you obviously missed this
for the 10 thousand'th time...
If you are required by law to inform, do so with minimum fuss
"Officer I have a CCW permit"
If you are not required by law then keep your frickin' mouth SHUT unless asked a direct question or you are respectfully asking "Sir am I free to go now?"
After all of my previous posts, I hope ZeSpectre doesn't mind my endorsement because he's entirely RIGHT!
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If you trust a citizen to remove his firearm and clear it in your presence, what makes you believe that citizen is any further threat to your safety to the point that you feel you must then seize his firearm?
Disarming non-threatening, law-abiding permit holders is inviting disaster. The unnecessary handling of firearms during a traffic stop is a recipe for trouble. I'm not in the habit of toying with my firearm in a dark vehicle along the roadside whilst a LEO stands over my shoulder with his hand on his weapon.
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If you trust a citizen to remove his firearm and clear it in your presence, what makes you believe that citizen is any further threat to your safety to the point that you feel you must then seize his firearm?
It is much safer this way because I am controlling the environment, I am controlling where I am positioned so as to insure my safety, then I am controlling the firearm for the duration of my contact.
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Disarming non-threatening, law-abiding permit holders is inviting disaster. The unnecessary handling of firearms during a traffic stop is a recipe for trouble. I'm not in the habit of toying with my firearm in a dark vehicle along the roadside whilst a LEO stands over my shoulder with his hand on his weapon.
Your statement is actually a pretty good argument for not allowing CCW inside a motor vehicle.
I see your point, though.
I also understand that he/she will likely remove me from the vehicle and confiscate my weapon for the duration of the stop.
Let me see if I have this right, officer. You want me to pick up my pistol and either clear it or just hand it to you? This action will make you feel safer? WRONG!
You just ratcheted up YOUR danger level immensely.
Agreed. There is a laundry list of things that can go wrong whenever a weapon is handled. If one doesn't open the can-o-worms by doing action A, then outcomes B, C, D, E and/or F will not occur. Cannot occur.As long as I see your hands, and they're empty, we're both OK.
Tell them this: "I really don't feel right handling a loaded firearm in your presence under these circumstances. I'd prefer that YOU get it; what do you want me to do now?"
If you are stopped by an officer; you inform them that you are carrying and that you have a permit, and they tell you to HAND THE GUN TO THEM, DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, REACH FOR YOUR GUN.
That is the hallmark of the inexperienced and/or complacent officer.
Tell them this: "I really don't feel right handling a loaded firearm in your presence under these circumstances. I'd prefer that YOU get it; what do you want me to do now?"