Continued in .223 Wylde - Meaning of $349 complete ARs for the Second Amendment

[LiveLife]

Meaning of $349 complete ARs for the Second Amendment continued - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?posts/12221839/

When complete AR15s are selling for less than many popular pistols, in my opinion, time really has come for people to not only buy affordable firearms but that AR15 has really become "common in use" for recreational shooting, sporting/match shooting, hunting and in particular, for self defense.

$349 AR is back now in .223 Wylde - https://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/gu...-handguard-rc-complete-nrail-flash-rifle.html

• BC-15
• .223 Wylde
• 16" M4 contour barrel with a parkerized finish
• 1:8 twist rate
• 15" MLOK rail
• M4 flat-top forged upper receiver with new handguard
• BCA bolt carrier group, flash hider, and rear charging handle
• BCA mil-spec AR-15 lower
• Made in USA (Complete upper assemblies, barrels, bolt carrier groups and components made in-house in Sanford, NC)
• High accuracy and lifetime warranty

 

[Blkhrt13]

If was in the mood for another budget ar I would try one. I still done quite get why the 223 Wilde exists. But I’m supposed to be doing better about not buying new guns for a minute. I wonder if pasty kits count for finishing my double star build? I don’t think they do.barrels are accessories…

 

[LiveLife]

I still done quite get why the 223 Wilde exists

Starting my AR journey 30 years ago with 20" 1:9 Bushmaster HBAR that I struggled to get 1.5" groups at 100 yards (55 FMJ), I built quite a few ARs over the years but when I saw shooters blasting milk jugs at 1000 yards 5 years ago, what impressed me was they were using 223 Wylde barrels.

Now all my AR builds are 223 Wylde barreled and recent BCA 18" 1:8 223 Wylde barrel builds are producing around 1" groups at 100 yards with decent ammo.

 

[12Bravo20]

A true MIL SPEC barrel is 1-7 so that it will stabilize the longer M856 tracker rounds. Other wise a 1-9 twist would do just fine for most 55 and 62 grain bullets.

The main difference between 5.56 chambers, 223 Wylde chambers, and 223 chambers is the amount of lead ahead of the bullet. 223 has the shortest lead and tends to be more accurate while the 5.56 is better for service use in all types of environments at the small loss of accuracy.

The 223 Wylde is in between a true 223 chamber and a true 5.56 chamber. Which also makes it safer to shoot NATO spec 5.56 ammo versus a standard 223 chamber. That being said, most manufacturers that mass produce rifles in 223 actually cut their chambers closer to 5.56 anyway. That use to not be the case years ago. 5.56 NATO can cause over pressure issues in a true 223 chamber.

 

[jmorris]

Knowing what it takes to machine, heat treat, finish, etc, the ~87 parts, think how cheap suppressors would be if every AR came with one.

 

[Mark_Mark]

I just need the upper

 

[Mark_Mark]

As someone who owns 8+ BCA uppers, lost count, plus a few barrels. They are over built! heavy and reliable. Made in Sanford NC, lived there once, and the town is all about FREEDOM

 

[N555]

The 223wylde chamber allows for the safe use of 5.56mm loaded ammunition in a chamber cut more like a 223rem chamber.
The 223wylde has the tighter freebore of the 223rem chamber for better accuracy, but a longer free bore like a 5.56 chamber to help tame the higher peak pressure of 5.56 ammo.

I get very acceptable accuracy from 5.56mm chamber guns.

I say if you're not doing at least 3 of these:
A much improved trigger over "mil spec". Free floated hand guard.
Glass.
Better ammo either testing different factory loads or hand loads.
The gun is a blot action.
Or don't bother with 223wylde.

 

[Mark_Mark]

The 223wylde chamber allows for the safe use of 5.56mm loaded ammunition in a chamber cut more like a 223rem chamber.
The 223wylde has the tighter freebore of the 223rem chamber for better accuracy, but a longer free bore like a 5.56 chamber to help tame the higher peak pressure of 5.56 ammo.

I get very acceptable accuracy from 5.56mm chamber guns.

I say if you're not doing at least 3 of these:
A much improved trigger over "mil spec". Free floated hand guard.
Glass.
Better ammo either testing different factory loads or hand loads.
The gun is a blot action.
Or don't bother with 223wylde.

I’m a give it a go! sounds extra cool

 

[12Bravo20]

I get very acceptable accuracy from 5.56mm chamber guns.

I say if you're not doing at least 3 of these:
A much improved trigger over "mil spec". Free floated hand guard.
Glass.
Better ammo either testing different factory loads or hand loads.
The gun is a blot action.
Or don't bother with 223wylde.

For general use, a 5.56 chamber is just fine. I have been thoroughly impressed with the last 20" 1-7 twist A2 barrel I bought from Windham Weaponry. That thing is more accurate than it should be even when shooting surplus M855 ammo.

I only have 1 AR upper with the 223 Wylde chamber and it was purpose built as a DMR rifle. Otherwise I normally just stick with 5.56 chambers. Now if I want the most accuracy I will go with a bolt action with a 223 chamber.

 

[12Bravo20]

I have seen both good and bad about BCA uppers. But it has mostly been very good in the last few years. I'm sure they had some growing pains at first but it does seem that they have fixed things. At least with their centerfire uppers.

The only BCA upper or barrel that I would go over with a fine tooth comb or avoid is their 22lr barrels. They sent out quite a few with the extractor groove cut to deep which causes case ruptures. And they even sent out some replacements with the same bad extractor groove cut. And another issue that they need to address is the bolt on their 22WMR uppers. The 22WMR bolts were designed to be used with GI triggers only. They will jam up the rifle if you try to use aftermarket two stage triggers.