longdayjake
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We ARE on topic. We are comparing cooper rifles to powerful cars.
Cooper Firearms?
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Milkmaster
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It always happens like this. It's bad when you have to unsubscribe to a thread that you started!
Coal Dragger
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Yeah..... uh of course we are.
longdayjake,
I have heard, and used to drive a pretty healthy souped up American muscle car (1994 Z28 with a 6 speed manual) with some mild bolt ons. I have also been around some heavily modified Corvettes, and a few Mustangs. Great sounds no doubt, but quite different than the high revving Ferrari. I will also freely admit that I have a serious lusting after a new Mustang Boss 302, but if I had to choose between that or a 458 Italia..... well performance wise the Ferrari is the more complete car. Just like for me the Cooper is the more complete rifle.
Although I will say that some money, and time could be invested in a more common rifle and you may be able to come up with equal cosmetics and performance to a Cooper, but the same can't be said of trying to turn an old muscle car into a Ferrari beater. At least not overall, the 1/4 mile would be doable, but a road course or twisty mountain road the light weight, 562hp mid engine Italian will simply leave you for dead.
longdayjake,
I have heard, and used to drive a pretty healthy souped up American muscle car (1994 Z28 with a 6 speed manual) with some mild bolt ons. I have also been around some heavily modified Corvettes, and a few Mustangs. Great sounds no doubt, but quite different than the high revving Ferrari. I will also freely admit that I have a serious lusting after a new Mustang Boss 302, but if I had to choose between that or a 458 Italia..... well performance wise the Ferrari is the more complete car. Just like for me the Cooper is the more complete rifle.
Although I will say that some money, and time could be invested in a more common rifle and you may be able to come up with equal cosmetics and performance to a Cooper, but the same can't be said of trying to turn an old muscle car into a Ferrari beater. At least not overall, the 1/4 mile would be doable, but a road course or twisty mountain road the light weight, 562hp mid engine Italian will simply leave you for dead.
CraigC
Sixgun Nut
Exactly but beating the Cooper (or Ferrari for that matter) shouldn't really be the "why"? Life, like shooting or driving, is a journey, not an end result. Drive the car or shoot the rifle (or sixguns for me) that puts the biggest smile on your face. If you're doing it to beat the other guy, who's doing it for the pure enjoyment of it, you're missing the point. That ain't the way to live, shoot, or drive.
Being a huge fan of the american V8, I will admit to getting goosebumps sitting at a redlight next to a 550 Maranello, listening to that high-strung V12 idling aggressively.
I ain't puttin' down Swisher Sweets, I just choose "differently".
Cigar smoke should never reach your lungs, unless you're in a cigar bar, of course. Huge difference between chain-smoking cigarettes and smoking a couple cigars a week.
Being a huge fan of the american V8, I will admit to getting goosebumps sitting at a redlight next to a 550 Maranello, listening to that high-strung V12 idling aggressively.
I ain't puttin' down Swisher Sweets, I just choose "differently".
Cigar smoke should never reach your lungs, unless you're in a cigar bar, of course. Huge difference between chain-smoking cigarettes and smoking a couple cigars a week.
788Ham
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benzy2, post #66,
Your statement about Remington stock rifles "not shooting 1/2" groups without new triggers or stocks, but many will." I have an older Rem. 788 in .223 that shot good, until I installed a new Timney trigger, which now shoots .366 MOA @ 100 yds., with handloads. The stock is original, I like it that way, the trigger was original, they sucked bad! The point, original factory rifles will shoot better than most custom jobs for less than the prices quoted on here, my total for this outfit was $135.00 for the rifle, $128.00 for the trigger, total $263.00, a long way from $800.00. I'd like a Cooper also, just can't afford that luxury.
Your statement about Remington stock rifles "not shooting 1/2" groups without new triggers or stocks, but many will." I have an older Rem. 788 in .223 that shot good, until I installed a new Timney trigger, which now shoots .366 MOA @ 100 yds., with handloads. The stock is original, I like it that way, the trigger was original, they sucked bad! The point, original factory rifles will shoot better than most custom jobs for less than the prices quoted on here, my total for this outfit was $135.00 for the rifle, $128.00 for the trigger, total $263.00, a long way from $800.00. I'd like a Cooper also, just can't afford that luxury.
longdayjake
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You can afford anything that you REALLY want.
dubbleA
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Yeah let's keep it on topic. Start your own thread on finishing boyds laminate and birch stocks and fast cars, they really don't have nothing to do with Cooper rifles.
dirtyjim I have to agree, for a production rifle the wood is bland.
M52 25-06
dirtyjim I have to agree, for a production rifle the wood is bland.
M52 25-06
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JohnBT
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I love my Cooper rifle.
John
P.S. - You couldn't even get radial tires from the factory on a '69 GTO. They didn't become standard until '74. Bias ply tires handled like crud. With the Ram Air option the fastest GTO was less than a full second faster 0-60 than a 2006 Toyota Avalon with a 268-hp V6. You can look it up - 5.3 to 6.1 seconds.
John
P.S. - You couldn't even get radial tires from the factory on a '69 GTO. They didn't become standard until '74. Bias ply tires handled like crud. With the Ram Air option the fastest GTO was less than a full second faster 0-60 than a 2006 Toyota Avalon with a 268-hp V6. You can look it up - 5.3 to 6.1 seconds.
M52 25-06
I love that shadow line on the cheekpiece
dirtyjim
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ok, the wood on that one is slightly above bland, i still wouldn't give the blank it was cut from a second look.
the bottom rear of the pistol grip where it transitions up the stock is not right and the flutes on the comb are also not shaped correctly.
the checkering is hideous.
if cooper sold barreled actions they might have something
DM~
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That just cracked me up! lol lol Thanks for the good laugh!
BTW, no one has addressed the lack of Cooper quality? For the BIG money they cost, NONE should leave the factory with problems....NONE!
DM
Coal Dragger
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Well in a perfect world no product would leave any factory with defects, but this is not a perfect world. Also if you really think that Coopers are "BIG money" I'd have to disagree, there are plenty of other rifles that cost just as much or more that no one would even give a second thought to as being terribly expensive, for example a Weatherby MK V, or a Sako 85 are all in the range of a Cooper and I've seen factory flaws on them too. Coopers are really not all that expensive, at least all of them other than the M56 which is absurdly priced. The price of my M52 was less than I gross in one week of work, surely one week's worth of pay is not an outrageous amount of money to set aside for a rifle?
What was the cost of a good quality bolt action rifle a few decades ago relative to average wages? Maybe a month's worth or more?
What was the cost of a good quality bolt action rifle a few decades ago relative to average wages? Maybe a month's worth or more?
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CraigC
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Exactly!
The fact that you apparently think it's all the same doesn't speak very well for your knowledge on the subject.
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