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deadin

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Anybody else getting tired of all the Conspiracy Theories floating around on gun boards these days?
I’m beginning to wonder if a good number of these “theories” are being started by the anti-gunners with the intent of the gun fraternity picking them up and running them all over the internet thereby making us look like a bunch of paranoid crackpots.
 
I am a paranoid crack pot I guess. I had it in my mind that just as soon as the election was over there would be a convenient excuse to make a move by the antis. It just seems too much of a coincidence. Kids then responders, almost a perfect storm so to say. Part of me fears that if the "ban the guns" feeling start to cool, there will be another big shooting to fire it right back up again.
 
I feel that people think we're crackpots because we seek out the information and don't just take in what's hand fed to us by the State Run Media.

For example, how many people on here have heard of Agenda 21?

How many people on here really think the DHS ammo purchase is really for target practice?

How many people have heard of Military Leaders being asked if they would fire on civillians?

Of course, I'm paranoid. The Government is trying to take our weapons. I feel that the run on guns and ammo right now is a sign that the silent Majority is waking up.
 
I’m beginning to wonder if a good number of these “theories” are being started by the anti-gunners with the intent of the gun fraternity picking them up and running them all over the internet thereby making us look like a bunch of paranoid crackpots.

this sounds like a "ct" in its infancy to me... :p
 
The anti-gun crowd don't need to start any "conspiracy theories" as they will always start by themselves. Ironically accusing them of doing so is a "conspiracy theory" in it's self but I would not put it past them. The antis WILL exploit anything they can find to make us look crazy, racist, violent, and in general a bunch of nuts thus destroying our credibility. Right now there are a bunch of Youtube videos about Sandy Hook being a government operation by the government. Most of this stuff is based on some inconsistancies due to the media gathering and releasing inaccurate information too fast. While it is remotely possible the shootings at Sandy Hook and Aurora were part of a government operation I believe it is EXTREMELY unlikley. I do believe however the anti-gun people who are in the position to do so will lie, exageratre and plant evidence as best they can to further their agenda if they think they can get away with it. Basically they will use any means at their disposal moral or not to exploit a situation. We need to concentrate on the facts, avoiding outlandish "theories" and getting as much of the public as possible to see the truth about the second ammendment.
 
And here I thought this was going to be a thread about Crimson Trace questions. :p

I'm surprised there's not a tin foil shortage due to purchases on both sides of the aisle. Lot of that going around for sure.
 
I am tired of conspiracy theories. There is no conspiracy to take our guns. There is a great deal of overt political action around the country to enact either some or a great deal of new gun control legislation, something a lot of people have wanted to do for a very long time. That doesn't make it a conspiracy. And yes indeed, if inacted, some of that legislation would in fact have the effect of taking away some guns presumably...worst case, maybe a lot of guns...or their magazines. Still not a conspiracy.

All conspiracy theories (which are often more interesting in and of themselves than the supposed acts of the conspirators) have some common properties. The one that makes them all "work" is the myth of hyper-competence...hyper-competent covert groups. Groups, agencies, or other organizations (Mafias, CIAs, Skull and Bones, Tripartite, Bilderberg, Templars, etc) that are so competent, so tuned into government, so able to control the environment in which they operate, so able to do so without a trace, that they are able to get away with anything.

This of course is where they all fail. Sure, there are some pretty compentent groups out there (Mossad, CIA, SEALs, frankly the old Cosa Nostra) that can pull off some pretty amazing things. But look at what they really have to overcome.

The whole Bin Laden thing. Yes, that was a brilliant, well planned, well executed covert military operation, carried out by a very (if not hyper) competent organization(s). But look at the thing critically. Well they crashed their helicopter. But since they had a good plan B, they dealt with it well. They landed in the wrong place (outside instead of inside) but again, they had a plan B...brought a ladder I suppose. Stealthy? Well they did pretty well. Nobody saw them coming that's for sure...that was 100%. But the whole raid itself after the was apparent to everybody within a huge radius. Thank goodness this was in Pakistan and not Israel or Britain or Sweden or France. So here's a case where the best America has to offer did one hell of a bang-up job and got the bum. Bravo USN!!! But it does sort of debunk the myth of hyper competence. A lot did go wrong, it wasn't secret very long, and they pulled it off by the hair of their chins. Again Bravo USN!!!

To pull off the sorts of conspiracies that people talk about would require orders of magnitude greater competence than was available to the people who got Bin Ladin.

So yes, I sick of all the gun-grabbing conspiracies.
 
There are too many facts out there for us to be imagining things. The problem is that it has become more difficult for them to keep secrets with the internet and access to public records and things like inter office emails being diverted to news sources.
 
The biggest trick that has been pulled off, is that people are not seeing what is in front of them. How can you not think that the agenda through gun control is confiscation? We've already had people on record talking about it.
 
I am a paranoid crack pot I guess. I had it in my mind that just as soon as the election was over there would be a convenient excuse to make a move by the antis. It just seems too much of a coincidence. Kids then responders, almost a perfect storm so to say. Part of me fears that if the "ban the guns" feeling start to cool, there will be another big shooting to fire it right back up again.
We warned them right after the election. They didn't listen. We told them after Sandy Hook. They didn't listen. Now we're just CT's. Guess they're still not listening.
 
If you are not a conspiracy theorist your level of naivete is exceptionally high. Look around. How many things are now being done in the name of Pol itical Correctness that we all thought a few years ago "could never happen"? I am sure some of it is coincidence but I am not going to let my guard down and wait til it is over (or is it already) to become suspicious.
 
Rational perspective on CT:

If you believe there are conspiracies, and you're wrong, what harm's been done? OTOH, if you don't believe it, and you're wrong...?
 
It ain't paranoia if its true... after all the government does such a great job with our tax dollars, why not trust them with our Constitutional Rights. :what:
 
deadin, yes, there are many of us are tired of conspiracy theories. As you can see from this thread, there's pretty much no way to stop them as some people simple refuse to accept even the most logical explanations.

As someone much wiser than me recently said, "Too many 'gun nuts' seem to now simply be NUTS. "
 
If you believe there are conspiracies, and you're wrong, what harm's been done? OTOH, if you don't believe it, and you're wrong...?
You don't vaccinate your kids against disease, you don't get them medication when they suffer severe depression/psychosis/schizophrenia, you vote for the wrong guy at elections...
 
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