CVA or TC?

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Are you asking about sidelocks or inlines?

Every model has its own virtues but TC probably holds a larger share of the market for a reason.
And they have a no nonsense lifetime warranty that is considered to be the best in the business.
 
Having both modern and B/p T/C guns, I would also go with T/C. As stated, they stand behind their guns and are very customer oriented. Fit and finish is also superior to the imports, and most important; it's made in the USA.
 
I'm sure T/C makes fine muzzle loaders, in fact, know they do. But, I like CVA, also. They're very functional guns and affordable. My CVA Wolf is a tack driver and my Plainsman is a fun gun to shoot. I have an Investarms Hawken Hunter Carbine that I'd rank higher, of course, for built quality, probably up there with TC, actually, but that don't mean I don't like the CVAs. :D They're affordable and get the job done nicely.

The only TC product I own is an old Contender with 4 barrels. The .410/.45 Colt is just a fun barrel, the 7mm TCU was for IHMSA which I don't do anymore, the .30-30 with 2x optic has killed five deer and a few hogs and the .22 barrel is more accurate than most .22 rifles I've ever fired. I can embarrass a lot of rifle shooters, too, with that .30-30 from the bench at the range. :D Yeah, TC makes quality stuff. I ain't sellin' my CVA rifles, though. I have a .31 pocket remmy sold by CVA, too, but it's actually an Armi San marco built import I bought years ago from Gander Mountain when they still had a catalog. I THINK the Wolf is made in America, but for the barrels are built for them in Spain.

The CVA inlines are REALLY impressive for the money. The removable breach block is totally tool-less and makes for easy clean up or unloading after unsuccessful hunts and the guns are impressively accurate. One hole 100 yard bench rest groups are possible with the right load. The triggers are creep free and not heavy, though not target gun light. Mine is perfect for its intended purpose, hunting. I picked it up for 179 bucks. Now that I've lived with it a while, I might pick me up a stainless barreled more expensive model in the future. Not sure I really NEED one, though. :D
 
todays CVA is a huge step up over what they used to build. TC on the other hand is constantly on a down hill slide. The $200 CVA Optima comes with a trigger thats in the 2 - 2.5lb range... TC's $900 encore comes with a trigger that break normally at over 5 to 6lbs.
 
TC but I wish Smith Wesson didn't buy them up... love Smith but hate their management and foreign interest
 
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The Traditions Vortek seems to be a great gun too and cheaper then the T/C Truimph.



I do have 2 T/C Truimphs and 1 T/C Omega though.

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m21black said:
... love Smith but hate their management and foreign interest
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I'm not sure what the foreign interest is that you are referring to but S&W has been owned by an American corporation since 2001.

May 15, 2001

Saf-T-Hammer Corporation announced on Monday (May 14) that they have purchased Smith & Wesson Corp. from Tomkins Corporation, a subsidiary of UK-based Tomkins PLC, once again bringing S&W under American ownership.

http://hunting.about.com/library/weekly/aa010515.htm
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TC Historically made a better gun. CVA went through a lot of bad press on barrels (not as much of a CVA problem as once thought.
TC and CVA both make great guns now.
For the money can not beat CVA, and its what I am shooting this year.
 
If you're asking a straight-up, nose-to-nose, best quality question I have to say Thompson Center. If it's a best value, which would I buy question? It's not as cut & dried IMHO, but I still lean toward TC.
 
i own both types of guns. the cva has an aimpoint on it for hunting in the woods,the tc has a scope for fields.both guns are tack drivers,but would give the edge to the tc for accuracy at a longer distance.
 
CVA all the way i had my choice of either the new Optima or the TC Impact so i went & looked at the both of them at a gun shop & after looking at both rifles it was the CVA by a landslide the trigger is just awesome & the TC Impact's trigger i don't want to bash TC well anyway it was a joke next the the Optima's & the QRBP on the Optima is just awesome and again TC Impact isn't so much . Now dont get me wrong TC makes fines firearms but the features on the CVA Optima makes it the better gun by far to me .
 
Kinda commin in late here but, neither...what if u could get the same features as a T/C endeavor but at 1/3 the price...and yes i have experience shooting both...The traditions vortek has the same feature and then some(except barrel change capabilities) and i bout mine for 350( camo hogue overmold stock and ultra light ceracoated 28" barrel ) its fluted and ported and quick remove breach...shoots as well if not better than my dads T/C endeavor...1 hole group at 100 yards...and i shoot it with accuracy at 250 yards(using bushnell DOA 250 scope) i shoot 120 grains by volume of buck horn powder and Hornady bullets with polymer tip...the scope was dead on all the way out.
 
I know nothing whatsoever about the "I"word ML's. But the old CVA mountain rifle (which I never owned one) got one hell of a lot of guys into the traditional muzzleloader craze back in the 1970s.

For the price it was not a bad rifle and know a lot of deer were taken with it.
 
Before THAT were bow and arrow and spear.
I also know nichts about in-lines. If you were talking about the classics though then T/C it is, which probably explains why THEY still make them!!! A thing of beauty and a joy forever, and it isn't like I don't own and shoot both company's products...
 

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Had a couple tc hawkens, tight bored mothers and cheek slappers to boot. You practically have to give them away these days. Its hard to fetch $250 for one.

The CVA Mountain Rifle was a great gun and its hard to pick them up for under $325 - $350. The 54 and 58's have been priced at $450 to $550. The prices on them have just sky rocketed.
 
Of the traditional sidelocks I'll take a TC over a CVA all day long. In all my years of black powder I've had one problem, probably of my own making, and TC never faltered even though I made it known that I wasn't the original owner.

That being said, I have an old CVA Kentucky that's a limb-bacon gettin' sonofagun! The only way I'd think about replacing it would be with a 32 TC Cherokee and finding one used that I'll pay the asking price for is gettin' like finding a white crow.
 
Tex4426

Boy I love to read about you shooters who shoot one hole groups at 100 yds
Tell me how many shots is that? One? If you shot like that at the Nationals
in Indiana you would set records that would never be broken. Get your picture on TV, have all kinds of endorsements, make lots of money. WOW!!
I'm impressed.
 
Not a one holer but daaaaarn close! That cableas hawken loves the big .500 S&W 500 454gr conicals with 70gr Pyrodex RS and a lubed wad.
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The 250gr REAL conicals shoot very close to the same group as well.
 
Depends. On the older models, TC was alot beteer (fit, finish, detail in rifle, etc.) CVA looked and felt like it was made in a third world country.
 
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